The "Abracadabra spell" explained (NOT satanic)

[Axl Jax 559]

Before I say anything else, this guy knows his stuff and isn't one of the "satanic panic" people. Quite the opposite and he's recieved a lot of backlash for this video from religious nuts so i wouldnt read the comments.

I'm what many could consider an "occultist". I have been wanting to make a thread about this for a while, then this morning this video popped up on my feed and he's quite bang on in his interpretation.

FYI the "Woman in Red" she describes is the woman who rides the lion in the "Lust" card in my Aleister Crowley Tarot Deck (Thoth), which I use everyday and I love. All of what he is saying matches gaga's emojis and hints too of the moon, which in astrology is a feminine force (28 day cycles anyone?) and represents our emotions and intuition, where as the sun is a masculine force and is closely linked to our "ego". (My moons in Aries fml)

But yeah... He describes what I've been wanting to say quite well. It isn't a "satanic" spell, it is a spell in the context that that we all cast spells everyday with our words (we literally learn to spell (spelling) when we start school, it all goes back to ancient times before christianity took over and inverted everything). a good example of what i mean by this is that an insult can change someones entire day but so can a compliment. Lots of people in certain corners of paganism absolutely love this song, including myself. Everytime we sing this we are saying it. It's such a beautiful song too, Abracadabra means I create as I speak (or sing in this case). I'd avoid the comment section though cos it's full of oMg iLlUmInAtI people

 

[River 108,654]

I mean... it's a simple abracadabra, it's not some complicated spell in C3 Latin

[Nathaniel Arven 1,649]

one of my fav youtubers omg !!! 

Edited 13 hours ago by Nathaniel Arven

[faysalaaa 3,651]

None of this makes it sound better, it just makes conspiracy theorists look like they are right. Hes saying exactly what conspiracy theorists are saying, but he interprets it in a positive way because hes part of the occultist, so obviously he will see it as a good thing.

And just to make it clear, I dont believe conspiracy theorists or this guy, im just saying this video doesnt make it better

Edited 10 hours ago by faysalaaa

[Axl Jax 559]

1 hour ago, River said:

I mean... it's a simple abracadabra, it's not some complicated spell in C3 Latin

Yeah, and she's using it in her artistry. Bits of the chorus are just our gibberish  gaga lyrics as filler words, but the Amor and morta (love and death) parts along with much of the songs theme and some of the dance moves, it's basically a phenomenal piece of art with esoteric knowledge in it, it's not about whether you believe in it either, but ask anyone who has studied esoteric knowledge and they will tell you gaga knows what she's doing. She's phenomenal, I tell people this but with some people especially with this song it's like explaining the colour red to a blind person.

[Axl Jax 559]

1 minute ago, faysalaaa said:

None of this makes it sound better, it just "confirms" that conspiracy theorists are right. Hes saying exactly what conspiracy theorists are saying, but he interprets it in a positive way because hes part of the occultist, so obviously he will see it as a good thing.

Not really, the conspiracy theories are mostly extreme religious people, usually Christians and Muslims. Even Buddhists and Hindus will be able to understand some of this.

Esoteric knowledge goes back to the pagan roots (which I am btw), but people hear the word spell and think omg Satan. Just like religion, occult and esoteric knowledge can be used for good or bad.

[River 108,654]

8 minutes ago, Axl Jax said:

Yeah, and she's using it in her artistry. Bits of the chorus are just our gibberish  gaga lyrics as filler words, but the Amor and morta (love and death) parts along with much of the songs theme and some of the dance moves, it's basically a phenomenal piece of art with esoteric knowledge in it, it's not about whether you believe in it either, but ask anyone who has studied esoteric knowledge and they will tell you gaga knows what she's doing. She's phenomenal, I tell people this but with some people especially with this song it's like explaining the colour red to a blind person.

I'm not questioning her artistry or songwriting, it's not the case, it's just it's a simple abracadabra and people like this youtuber and others making such a big fuss out of it.. there's no point in discussing if it's satanic or not, because it's just abaracadabra, with amor, morta, gaga and that's it, not some deep satan worshiping "spell". it's honestly, not even a spell

It's like making an essay over itsy bitsy spider.

and if you noticed, nobody's excusing Eminem's Houdini and abracadabra for satanic ritual

[faysalaaa 3,651]

1 hour ago, Axl Jax said:

Not really, the conspiracy theories are mostly extreme religious people, usually Christians and Muslims. Even Buddhists and Hindus will be able to understand some of this.

Esoteric knowledge goes back to the pagan roots (which I am btw), but people hear the word spell and think omg Satan. Just like religion, occult and esoteric knowledge can be used for good or bad.

If Gaga is referencing Aleister Crowley, hes a man that believes in ritual magic, and wanting to bring demons and entities into the world. He also does magic and spells by using sexual rituals and sacrificing animals. So this video makes conspiracy theorists look right. So im not sure how this video makes things better..?

Edited 10 hours ago by faysalaaa

[bionic 46,423]

I performed a blood sacrifice and spoke to Satan himself. He confirmed it is Satanic. 

[Meruk Holland 2,128]

27 minutes ago, River said:

I'm not questioning her artistry or songwriting, it's not the case, it's just it's a simple abracadabra and people like this youtuber and others making such a big fuss out of it.. there's no point in discussing if it's satanic or not, because it's just abaracadabra, with amor, morta, gaga and that's it, not some deep satan worshiping "spell". it's honestly, not even a spell

It's like making an essay over itsy bitsy spider.

and if you noticed, nobody's excusing Eminem's Houdini and abracadabra for satanic ritual

If you'll allow me to get a bit pretentious (or a lot) and play devil's advocate:

I really don't think Gaga wrote Abracadabra with truly deep, esoteric themes, let alone as spell. There are quite a few times where she's talking about how she wrote a song, and I'm almost positive she's just finding the meaning after the fact as well. I'd argue that, between Disease and Abracadabra, Mayhem's songs are less...personal and more...narrative? If that makes sense? Like they're still her songs about her experiences, but through a different, more fantastical lens.  

Either way, there is an interesting idea in philosophy, while artistic intent is a major factor in the artwork, interpretation is potentially as important, if not more important. 

Like, real talk, think about the Itsy Bitsy Spider, and you really could make an argument that it's a metaphor for the duality of nature, the importance of perseverance, or the pointlessness of a Sisyphean task. And the intent of the song could just be about how the author literally watching a spider get washed away in the rain. If someone really resonated with one of those arguments, then it wouldn't really matter to them what the intent was, they're just gonna see the nursery rhyme with a deeper meaning. 

Spoiler

Gods help me, I need to back in academia

 

[PhantomOfTheDance 13,773]

Hi, also pagan here/slightly esoteric (it's complicated )

 

I feel like Abracadabra refers to a lot of alchemical ideas, with the idea of integration of male and female, life/love and death to create the philosopher's stone/self (more touches of that in Disease). I understand this more from a Jungian perspective than esoteric or spiritual standpoint. The music video and melody of the song hints towards Phantom of the Opera, which pretty much focuses on Christine's judgement on males. Just some more food for thought cause your post resonated and made me realize this, especially with the Thoth card. A lady in red riding on a lion, which is mostly attributed to strength and male attributes in tarot.

[Axl Jax 559]

3 hours ago, River said:

I'm not questioning her artistry or songwriting, it's not the case, it's just it's a simple abracadabra and people like this youtuber and others making such a big fuss out of it.. there's no point in discussing if it's satanic or not, because it's just abaracadabra, with amor, morta, gaga and that's it, not some deep satan worshiping "spell". it's honestly, not even a spell

It's like making an essay over itsy bitsy spider.

and if you noticed, nobody's excusing Eminem's Houdini and abracadabra for satanic ritual

Yes but Gagas abracadabra is specifically about alchemy. As I said, you're not going to agree so there's no point trying to describe red to a blind man or sound to a deaf man. It is more of an incantation than a spell but it is still a spell, but the likes of Hollywood movies have got thinking a spell must mean a witch or wizard with a magic wand putting spells on people. She's been using forms of chaos magick and the law of attraction since the beginning of her career. Remember how she used to say "I've always been famous"? Because when you're manifesting, you do it in present tense (or past in this case) as if you already have it. This is a big principle in chaos magick, and why praying doesnt work, because you're essentially asking/begging yourself (god/consciousness) for something. We are moving out of that Piscean age if conformity and religion now into Aquarius where we come together. I also know that Gaga is very knowledgeable when it comes to the Law of One, I won't go into it here cos there's too much to say about it butnwe are moving from third density into fourth density, where we learn to love each other because we all one. It's a fascinating system and the 7 densities are linked to the colour spectrum and also what some cultures call chakras. (1st density consciousness - rocks, materials, minerals etc. 2nd - animals and plants. 3rd - humans. By the end of 2026 this shift will be very clear and more and more people will be talking about it, this year is the crumbling of the old structure (2025 is a vibration 9 year also which is the last number) to make way for the new clean slate in 2026. Theres so much I'd love to go into but as a science nerd i am aware that most of this is still pseudoscience, like many things once were. Gaga is phenomenal and will know this - we already know she believes in meditation and chakras from the pre-Joanne days.

Edit: also Eminem is no where near on the same level and caliber as gaga, thats why. Eminem sampled an old song and made it into a comedy rap track. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Axl Jax

[Cavadour 2,126]

Ancient symbols and speaking in tongues has always been used by artists and creators, Gaga included, to add layers of signification in their messages. Nothing is more open to interpretations than cryptics and symbols.

That said, mysteries and big unknown are also huge anxiety generators. This is one of the reasons the witchy Gaga, that us monsters like, doesn't reach more popularity in the gp. Hence the big mass success of songs like DWAS or ARUTW compared to Disease, Abra or Babylon to name a few.

Anyway. Whatever float our boats. I personnaly don't care as long as I realize I can't control my feet tapping to the beat of Gag's music, my heart pounding and the bees buzzing in my belly when her heavenly vocals flow to my ears. She can either be charming, sexy, spooky as hell, I'm all in.

More simply put, playing dark cards won't attract gp success. Really ? Who cares !

Edited 8 hours ago by Cavadour

[Axl Jax 559]

11 hours ago, faysalaaa said:

If Gaga is referencing Aleister Crowley, hes a man that believes in ritual magic, and wanting to bring demons and entities into the world. He also does magic and spells by using sexual rituals and sacrificing animals. So this video makes conspiracy theorists look right. So im not sure how this video makes things better..?

Aleister Crowley was very misunderstood and said things to be shocking, you do realise in the era he lived in if you wasn't a christian you were basically evil. She isn't referencing Crowley specifically, but some of his teachings like Thelema which I kinda follow, match up with things in the video. I said about the Lust card because if you watch the guy in the video describe the "Lady in Red" and what she represents (the bible is very misunderstood and highly metaphorical btw) it is the same woman riding the beast on the Lust tarot card.

People hear the word "Occult" and automatically think of evil spells and hexes and summoning demons. Lets pretend demons are confirmed real for a moment, I think back to when I used to get sleep paralysis as a kid, I would send them love and healing and the demons at my bed would go, because I somehow knew they needed positivity (think of the + and - on a magnet for example. It's just two polarized forces, as gaga even alludes to in the first part of the born this way video). People have things so twisted and it's all down to due religion.

[Axl Jax 559]

11 hours ago, faysalaaa said:

If Gaga is referencing Aleister Crowley, hes a man that believes in ritual magic, and wanting to bring demons and entities into the world. He also does magic and spells by using sexual rituals and sacrificing animals. So this video makes conspiracy theorists look right. So im not sure how this video makes things better..?

Also just to point out a few misconceptions about Crowley: when he said about sacrificing children he was talking about masturbation, he had quite a way of talking but on top of that, sexual things even the word masturbation was massively controversial in any public setting back then. Completely taboo.

and 2. I live by his quote is "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. Love is the law; love under will". But the religious nuts always seem to forget that last part when quoting him. Basically we are all god (consciousness) and we should be able to do what we want, as long as it is within the parameters of love (not sexual love, but kindness, empathy, the opposite of being a d*ckhead basically). He was so ahead of his time.