Feline 622 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 this is so wrong Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 32,627 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Their behind-the-scenes campaign must’ve been huge cause who in their right mind watches this racist mess and thinks “oh this parody of Mexican culture is good” like ??? 7 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 26,239 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 This is so important, especially in the current political climate in the US. Couldn’t have been announced at a better time 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domino 2 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 The praise this movie has gotten from the industry baffles me 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murakami27 4,670 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I love how universally hated this film is across all platforms. I haven't watched it tho. But that's just so funny to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 32,627 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 23 minutes ago, elijahfan said: especially in the current political climate in the US A movie basically making fun of/parodying us Mexicans is what the US needs during times of massive deportation? Yikes. 6 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 26,239 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 35 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said: A movie basically making fun of/parodying us Mexicans is what the US needs during times of massive deportation? Yikes. We clearly didn't see the same film. I've debated at length about it in another thread and will keep it brief here: the communities portrayed in the film have all the rights and legitimacy to criticize it, but a majority of the audience and critics are merely responding to the universality and emotion depicted in the movie. That probably makes us as uninformed as the filmmakers, but not ill-intended. I honestly don't think a racist and transphobe filmmaker would sacrifice 4 years of his life developing and making a film about these specific subjects. This might not be the way you wanted to see this story portrayed, but it turns out a Mexican tale with a trans lead currently has 13 Oscar nominations. Honestly, in the current political climate, yes, I'll gladly take it. Edited January 23 by elijahfan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Flower 5,022 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 hours ago, GagaTheExplorer said: Visa de latinidad revocada y mirada de profundo odio You made my day with this Drop it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 32,627 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) On 1/23/2025 at 10:43 AM, elijahfan said: We clearly didn't see the same film. I've debated at length about it in another thread and will keep it brief here: the communities portrayed in the film have all the rights and legitimacy to criticize it, but a majority of the audience and critics are merely responding to the universality and emotion depicted in the movie. That probably makes us as uninformed as the filmmakers, but not ill-intended. I honestly don't think a racist and transphobe filmmaker would sacrifice 4 years of his life developing and making a film about these specific subjects. This might not be the way you wanted to see this story portrayed, but it turns out a Mexican tale with a trans lead currently has 13 Oscar nominations. Honestly, in the current political climate, yes, I'll gladly take it. We love it when white people tell us Mexicans that we’re wrong about being disrespected by something white people did in regards to our culture. Thank you, white man, for educating me and other Mexicans on why parodying us and our culture should be tolerated Edited January 25 by ALGAYDO 9 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,405 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said: We love it when white propel tell us Mexicans that we’re wrong about being disrespected by something white people did in regards to our culture. Thank you, white man, for educating me and other Mexicans on why parodying us and our culture should be tolerated Remember, it’s not about what you want. Youre expected to bend over and like this ridiculous movie whose the director admitted to not do any research and claimed Mexicans aren’t talented enough to be in his movie. Definitely well intended And don’t you know? You can slap on LGBT themes to anything and negate all the other problematic stuff. Edited January 23 by Emvee 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 26,239 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, ALGAYDO said: We love it when white propel tell us Mexicans that we’re wrong about being disrespected by something white people did in regards to our culture. Thank you, white man, for educating me and other Mexicans on why parodying us and our culture should be tolerated I literally said first and foremost that the communities portrayed in the film have all the rights and legitimacy to criticize it, but you're just blindly spitting out the usual hate banter against the film without really trying to hear me. I'm merely trying to explain why many people find a lot of qualities to this film and why in this day & age, publicly crucifying it is a disservice to the universal message it's spreading and, in my opinion, the wrong battle to fight. That's all. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 26,239 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Emvee said: Youre expected to bend over and like this ridiculous movie whose the director admitted to not do any research and claimed Mexicans aren’t talented enough to be in his movie. Definitely well intended The director admitted wanting to approach the film in a way that's unencumbered with the strict realities to emphasize the universality of the story, maybe not the wisest approach to tackle such sensitive subjects, I'll give you that, but he's not the racist son of a bitch he's being painted as by some people. As for the other statement, it comes from the casting director who said there was a "lack of talent in Mexico", and I think there's something that's lost in translation a bit here. A "talent" in this context is a performer. He's not saying Mexicans are not talented, just that only focusing on Mexico to find performers for the film was limiting. Not the best way to phrase it, but once again, we talk about French people giving interviews in English that are then translated in Spanish by people on social media. Ok the approach and communication were questionable and clumsy, totally, and I understand how this might have rubbed some communities the wrong way. But let's not confuse who the enemies are here. I know the smell of blood is appealing, especially on social media, but let's put things back in context and stop the distorsion of information, the filmmakers and people who enjoyed this film aren't racists and aren't against you. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 32,627 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 16 minutes ago, elijahfan said: I literally said first and foremost that the communities portrayed in the film have all the rights and legitimacy to criticize it, but you're just blindly spitting out the usual hate banter against the film without really trying to hear me. I'm merely trying to explain why many people find a lot of qualities to this film and why in this day & age, publicly crucifying it is a disservice to the universal message it's spreading and, in my opinion, the wrong battle to fight. That's all. You’re right, us POCs should simply be happy about non-POCs white-washing our culture and history, because we simply have to be grateful whenever white people aren’t TOO openly racist towards us this is a win for us Mexicans who simply are too narrow-minded to understand that disrespecting us is actually a good thing so long as white people feel good about it 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CautiousLurker 19,435 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Damn they really said YESSS to a movie about a transwoman who is an abusive drug lord, I mean, whatever floats your boat at this point, life is pain and nothing matters Are there trans people running drug cartels btw, just out of curiosity? There's gotta be at least one, right It's a joke! When you give me that look, it's a joke! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reject False Icons 4,770 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 How lame, another obvious proof that Hollywood moves through nepotism and PR to be “critically acclaimed” and therefore accepted as high art and imposed to people 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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