Unpopular Gaga Opinions (The Re-Up: Pt. 2 - the Revenge) [Piano Version]

[monketsharona 56,901]

My unpopular opinion : Gaga is actually responsible of her image being seen as a collab girl while she could have smashed as big as DWAS very easily with both ARUTW and Bloody Mary. Adding DWAS on LG7 is her best commercial take in ages and I hope she will keep on doing those commercial decisions in the future 

[VOLANTIS 16,319]

16 hours ago, steven said:

Hot take but I don’t think Gaga’s acting is that phenomenal, just average tbh.

I somewhat agree. I think she's a good actress but I think we are yet to see a director truly being able to utilize her biggest strengths as an actor. Besides ASIB, a lot of Gaga's talents are wasted on just her star power instead of what she has to offer in terms of acting. 

[Killa 15,776]

On 12/25/2024 at 6:42 PM, Bronco said:

I mean we look back on Madonna & Kylie's career with rose tinted specs. 

Madonna & Kylie both had up and down periods in the 90s not entirely unlike the ARTPOP through to Chromatica period for Gaga.

Erotica's adoration & fanbase has grown over years and was more divisive on launch. And Madonna then had her fair share of rough films alongside a standout in Evita. Bedtime Stories did alright but wasn't a classic era for her. Hence why Ray of Light's success became so instrumental in the "reinvention narrative".

Same thing for Kylie. Her indie eras and adult pop shift in the 90s weren't big successes and the Impossible Princess tour originally wasn't even planned for Australia. But then Light Years, Spinning Around & the gold hotpants literally rebirthed her career as a major pop girl.

Gaga's definitely due her Ray of Light/Light Years return to form. 

Partially this is kinda true. I dont know that well Kylie's path. I know some of her flop era songs but im not so  informed as to make a timeline etc. Also for me she only exists from 1996 onwards lol. Ofc we all remember the moment that spinning around happened. And it was sort of a DWAS situation, i mean i have no idea how much promo was done besides maybe some tv appearances i remember vaguely. Our perception of promo back then was very different as things were less documented without the internet. But yeah i remember it sort of happened and it was a hit without much effort, like it seemed like a hit and she seemed like a mega star and that's it.

With Madonna i think it's very different, yeah she underperformed and flopped and whatnot but her mediatic presence never left. Whilst Gaga real problem is how she lost a ton of following, from super fans and GP and then regained some but with her total shift it's pretty clear even in here than some of the new fans aren't that likely to like batshit crazy outfits, at surface non sense gaga gaga moments. 

Erotica was a fantastic moment kinda niche or cult. She had mega controversy with her private life and art. There were some singles like take a bow that were more adult contemporany, or secret that had a more soulful side. I mean it's all still very memorable, yeah bedtime stories didnt really clicked but it wasn't as off the tracks as Joanne.  And Chromatica had rain on me. Lol maybe  we can say that deeper and deeper is her rain on me and take a bow is her million reasons.

But Gaga renaissance already happened with ASIB. and that's a fact as well it just happens that the moementum didn't stayed completely

I think she can even have this so called magnum opus even later in her career. Im not expecting Gaga to have this amazing album right now. I'm expecting a much better album that last two but her lyrics lately are lacking too much. And thats quite important. We'll see ofc. 

 

[Bronco 6,481]

25 minutes ago, Killa said:

But Gaga renaissance already happened with ASIB. and that's a fact as well it just happens that the moementum didn't stayed completely

I think she can even have this so called magnum opus even later in her career. Im not expecting Gaga to have this amazing album right now. I'm expecting a much better album that last two but her lyrics lately are lacking too much. And thats quite important. We'll see ofc. 

I think I'd compare ASIB to Evita since we're both talking similarities in career path. 

Both sort of rewrote the GP perception of the singer after a period where the Singer's image got dented for the GP. Hell Take a Bow could be Million Reasons to labour the comparison lol

You are right though. Madonna's fans stayed more loyal through the stumbles than Gaga fans have. 

I think a magnum opus can come at any time. But a magnum opus that gets attention needs good timing. And I feel like Gaga is at a point where if LG7 underperforms and she then takes the expected family break of continues to focus more on acting.... then an LG8 no matter how good it is has an everest to climb on arrival.

[Killa 15,776]

50 minutes ago, Bronco said:

I think I'd compare ASIB to Evita since we're both talking similarities in career path. 

Both sort of rewrote the GP perception of the singer after a period where the Singer's image got dented for the GP. Hell Take a Bow could be Million Reasons to labour the comparison lol

You are right though. Madonna's fans stayed more loyal through the stumbles than Gaga fans have. 

I think a magnum opus can come at any time. But a magnum opus that gets attention needs good timing. And I feel like Gaga is at a point where if LG7 underperforms and she then takes the expected family break of continues to focus more on acting.... then an LG8 no matter how good it is has an everest to climb on arrival.

Oh exactly thats absolutely true. Were talking about a magnum opus in that sense. Emancipation of mimi or ray of light.

My expectations are very low for this to happen, i mean all the snippets Scream a totally different thing. If we are expecting her Beyoncé or lemonade era i doubt this Is It .

Suddenly im kinda down  mess. Am i being pessismistic? I really don't see the light. I mean with dwas success of album would click and had some message It couldnt be a Better time to slay

[Miky 9,430]

ROM is average and was just to grab streams thanks to the collab with Ariana, they literally have zero in common art- and music-wise.

[MOT 2,714]

She keeps her real self well hidden. Seems tò be ALWAYS performing. That's great when you're singing, but I'm not sure if I have any idea of what Stefani is really like.

I mentioned this before a few times, but Graham Norton clearly is not her biggest fan and I wonder why that is. They asked him once who was his favourite guest and he said Cher, because Cher is always 'just Cher'. Don't know if that was a direct dig at Gaga (she wouldn't be the only celeb who puts on an act), but he's telling us what he likes, and I don't think he gets it from our gal.

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million reasons sucks

[culturalbaptism 2,345]

14 hours ago, Bronco said:

I think I'd compare ASIB to Evita since we're both talking similarities in career path. 

Both sort of rewrote the GP perception of the singer after a period where the Singer's image got dented for the GP. Hell Take a Bow could be Million Reasons to labour the comparison lol

You are right though. Madonna's fans stayed more loyal through the stumbles than Gaga fans have. 

I think a magnum opus can come at any time. But a magnum opus that gets attention needs good timing. And I feel like Gaga is at a point where if LG7 underperforms and she then takes the expected family break of continues to focus more on acting.... then an LG8 no matter how good it is has an everest to climb on arrival.

Take a Bow I- nothing and I repeat nothing on Dead Aunt can touch the timelessness of Take a Bow one of Madonna's best songs (with Like a Prayer and Frozen).

In order for the comeback/revival to work, she needs to be herself entirely, like Madonna was being during Ray of Light (motherhood changed the **** out of her), or Mariah during Butterfly (finally being out of Tommy's abusive claws).

The "I'm so in love with my billionaire and he wanted me to bring DarkGa back" won't suffice. It needs to come from within. Let's all agree that Die With a Smile would've been a deep cut like Speechless or Brown Eyes. She didn't need to prove her talent, she had the crazy outfits and dark songs leading the way and those lucky enough to pay attention would see the talent.

Kylie did so much better with the indie era Kylie94 and Impossible Princess. It was avant-garde, alternative, very Kylie to the core, but it was too much for the general public. Once she put Light Years that was the fun side the GP liked on her, it's still her 100% but she's shedding a light to what the GP wanted from her and it worked.

Maybe Gaga should go back to her "gaga" days that the general public wanted and I'm saying the fame the fame monster. no political songs like in btw or pretentiousness like ARTPOP.

Edited December 31, 2024 by culturalbaptism

[Plastic Flower 3,859]

12 hours ago, MOT said:

She keeps her real self well hidden. Seems tò be ALWAYS performing. That's great when you're singing, but I'm not sure if I have any idea of what Stefani is really like.

I mentioned this before a few times, but Graham Norton clearly is not her biggest fan and I wonder why that is. They asked him once who was his favourite guest and he said Cher, because Cher is always 'just Cher'. Don't know if that was a direct dig at Gaga (she wouldn't be the only celeb who puts on an act), but he's telling us what he likes, and I don't think he gets it from our gal.

Genuine or not, she might seem too pretentious for most people. IMO that’s why it’s so hard for regular people to like her outside of her more digestible material for the last 10 years.

[KindnessPunk 1,768]

Hey Girl is really underrated, a great message, a great song, an amazing bridge. Hoping she does more music like this in the future

[Conqueror 14]

Americano and Hair should've been singles. Bloody Mary was ahead of its time. Fashion, Sex Dreams with Rihanna, Venus (without spoken bridge and cringey lyrics) would've been hits.

A-Yo, John Wayne, Diamond Heart and Dancing in Circles should've been singles. The second half of Joanne is terrible and doesn't fit the country theme. The whole album seems incohesive.

Chromatica - Babylon, Fun Tonight should've been single along with Free Woman.