Bronco 6,795 Posted December 20, 2024 Share Posted December 20, 2024 1 hour ago, TEANUS said: Some of yall have never had a battered woman for a mother and it shows THAT kind of divorce or separation and process is something you’ll never get over. You can forgive but she’ll never forget. She could always be wondering for the rest of her life why she wasn’t enough, what she could have done, why is she better. I don’t put a lot of fault on Ari on this if Ethan and Lily were indeed separated by the time the two of them got together, you truly can’t help who the heart wants. But there’s a huge case of dishonesty or deception by omission on his part. For him to be able to take such a huge leap he had to have been disconnected from her emotionally for a loooooong time, something he should have communicated. Honestly unless you are privy to the full story on both sides. It's a bit dramatic and parasocial to suggest "a huge case of dishonesty or deception". Also there's no allegations of any abuse so let's not describe her as a "battered woman". That terminology implies criminal behaviour of which there are no allegations. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEANUS 12,946 Posted December 20, 2024 Share Posted December 20, 2024 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Bronco said: Honestly unless you are privy to the full story on both sides. It's a bit dramatic and parasocial to suggest "a huge case of dishonesty or deception". Also there's no allegations of any abuse so let's not describe her as a "battered woman". That terminology implies criminal behaviour of which there are no allegations. You wouldn’t think a women who’s been abused emotionally or mentally, or emotionally traumatized, which doesn’t usually spawn a criminal case or be classified as “criminal” just rather shitty, as battered?? Edited December 20, 2024 by TEANUS British social ladies with upturned pinkies, glasses clinking // xoxoTEANUS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 6,795 Posted December 20, 2024 Share Posted December 20, 2024 Just now, TEANUS said: You wouldn’t think a women who’s been abused emotionally or mentally, which unfortunately doesn’t spawn a criminal case or be classified as “criminal” just rather shitty, as battered?? What evidence of emotional & mental abuse do you have? Beyond the fact they seperated and divorced and he moved on with a new partner? Is it abuse to leave someone? If so then you are accusing almost every single user on this forum of having abused someone. Be serious. This kind of nonsense is so disrespectful to victims of actual emotional & mental abuse. A breakdown of communications is not abuse. A seperation is not abuse. Divorce is not abuse. Dating people after separation is not abuse. Calling someone a battered woman heavily implies they were victim of physical &/or sexual assault. Its incredibly crass language to apply that to this situation. Lets not pathologize strangers we have never met over situations we will never be privy to the full information of. 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEANUS 12,946 Posted December 20, 2024 Share Posted December 20, 2024 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bronco said: What evidence of emotional & mental abuse do you have? Beyond the fact they seperated and divorced and he moved on with a new partner? Is it abuse to leave someone? If so then you are accusing almost every single user on this forum of having abused someone. Be serious. This kind of nonsense is so disrespectful to victims of actual emotional & mental abuse. A breakdown of communications is not abuse. A seperation is not abuse. Divorce is not abuse. Dating people after separation is not abuse. Calling someone a battered woman heavily implies they were victim of physical &/or sexual assault. Its incredibly crass language to apply that to this situation. Lets not pathologize strangers we have never met over situations we will never be privy to the full information of. I edited my post to add emotional trauma while you were writing this so my fault but calm down. I’m not accusing anyone of anything and you don’t know anything about my experience with victims of abuse (sexual and domestic) or emotional trauma. This is a forum for discussion and I repeat my belief that if you truly love someone and you start to fall out of love with someone, they deserve an explanation rather than abrupt departure, affair, or traumatic ending of any sort and deserve EXTRA respect, support, and honesty while going through something as tolling on the mind and body as childbearing and birth Edited December 20, 2024 by TEANUS British social ladies with upturned pinkies, glasses clinking // xoxoTEANUS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEANUS 12,946 Posted December 20, 2024 Share Posted December 20, 2024 (edited) Maybe a battered woman isn’t the right terminology @Bronco, I’ve heard it used to refer to women who tragically lost their husbands, went through repeated traumas, were cheated on, etc. so if that’s incorrect or insensitive I’ll apologize for that, truly, but nothing else Edited December 20, 2024 by TEANUS British social ladies with upturned pinkies, glasses clinking // xoxoTEANUS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 6,795 Posted December 20, 2024 Share Posted December 20, 2024 5 minutes ago, TEANUS said: I edited my post to add emotional trauma while you were writing this so my fault but calm down. I’m not accusing anyone of anything and you don’t know anything about my experience with victims of abuse (sexual and domestic) or emotional trauma. This is a forum for discussion and I repeat my belief that if you truly love someone and you start to fall out of love with someone, they deserve an explanation rather than abrupt departure, affair, or traumatic ending of any sort and deserve EXTRA respect, support, and honesty while going through something as tolling on the mind and body as childbearing and birth And I will repeat again. We were not privy to their relationship. We have minimal information about what happened. We do not know what conversions were had in that relationship. We do not know how feelings were communicated in that relationship. I said in my very first post that I feel sorry for the woman as being a single parent is not easy for anyone. Especially not a first time mum in the first year of the child's life. I didnt ask you about your experience with victims, nor did I share mine. Neither of which change the fact that the way you are discussing the private relationship of 2 people you've never met and have little to no information on besides celebrity gossip journalism is parasocial. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEANUS 12,946 Posted December 20, 2024 Share Posted December 20, 2024 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Bronco said: And I will repeat again. We were not privy to their relationship. We have minimal information about what happened. We do not know what conversions were had in that relationship. We do not know how feelings were communicated in that relationship. I said in my very first post that I feel sorry for the woman as being a single parent is not easy for anyone. Especially not a first time mum in the first year of the child's life. I didnt ask you about your experience with victims, nor did I share mine. Neither of which change the fact that the way you are discussing the private relationship of 2 people you've never met and have little to no information on besides celebrity gossip journalism is parasocial. But isn’t it okay that now that shes shared her side (multiple times) while saying they didn’t cheat and that he’s still a present father, and we’ve had quite a bit of time to ingest this knowledge around this relationship to have an opinion and to voice it on a forum? Are you also showing parasocial symptoms by entering a thread about the subject of celebrities’ lives and relationships in the first place? I don’t need your validation or diagnosis lol Edited December 20, 2024 by TEANUS British social ladies with upturned pinkies, glasses clinking // xoxoTEANUS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,203 Posted December 21, 2024 Share Posted December 21, 2024 Good for her for speaking up as just because she's not famous doesn't mean she's not entitled to right to reply when a celebrity appeared in her life and turned it upside down. I can't imagine how it feels to see the woman who stole your husband and resulted in your being a single mum to an infant is now having #1 singles, a praised album and an acclaimed movie that's resulting in awards nominations. There must be a sense of "why is this woman being glorified?" What Ariana and Ethan did should never be forgotten and brushed off because it's in the past and Ariana's really talented with a lot of fans. On 12/19/2024 at 7:04 PM, LadyEnigma said: Honestly I’m sick of hearing about these people’s personal business, also pretty much all of the stuff I’ve heard has been from HER (his ex) as Ethan and Ariana haven’t said a thing about this to the public and have been v private ab their whole relationship idk if I’m crazy bc like yeah I feel bad for her bc she’s obvi upset but also like they were both divorced before anything happened and they’re all adults so I don’t get the whole meltdown in the first place… They've barely said a thing to the public about it because they know they got together in very inappropriate circumstances and Ethan walked out on his wife and newborn for Ariana. No surprise, they don't want to talk about it and attention to be brought to their shocking actions. And I'm not believing for a minute that they were separated already, they went to double dates with Ariana and her husband and Ariana even held their baby. It's weird that so many people focus almost exclusively on Ethan and forget that Ariana was married too and she and Dalton were very much still together, what with the aforementioned double dates and him travelling all the way to London to watch her act on set. You don't do those things for someone you're no longer with. On 12/19/2024 at 7:15 PM, Cameltoe Chariot said: She needs to move the f*ck on. Bowen Yang said flat out on his podcast that there was no cheating or anything going on during filming, and that Ari's relationship with Ethan started AFTER he split with his ex. That's a pretty bold statement that could easily be turned into a defamation lawsuit, but I don't hear her saying anything about that! Did it ever occur to you that cast members have been told to say these things in order for the promo trail to go smoothly and it doesn't put anyone off seeing the movie? And as I said above, everyone seems to forget that Ariana was married too and Dalton was totally acting in a way that suggested they were very much together. There's all this rewriting of history in an attempt to have positive PR and save face for both of them. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameltoe Chariot 14,455 Posted December 21, 2024 Share Posted December 21, 2024 No offence but i truly cannot believe how passionate and invested some of you are in this whole relationship situation. It honestly seems that a lot of the more angry people are also coming from a place of experiencing infidelity. Projection isn’t reality. 1 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,203 Posted December 24, 2024 Share Posted December 24, 2024 On 12/21/2024 at 8:40 PM, Cameltoe Chariot said: No offence but i truly cannot believe how passionate and invested some of you are in this whole relationship situation. It honestly seems that a lot of the more angry people are also coming from a place of experiencing infidelity. Projection isn’t reality. It's not hard to be passionate and invested when it's a such a sad public story and is something easily to timeline and chronicle. You don't have to have experienced being cheated on to empathise with someone who was cheated on and left to become a single mother to an infant. Why would Lilly lie about the status of her relationship with Ethan when it could so easily be called out? Why is hardly anyone referencing how Dalton and Ariana were publicly still together through it all so she was definitely cheating on him? It's baffling to me why some people aren't automatically siding with the obviously cheated-on spouses and are looking for ways to justify what went on and even try to say there's no evidence of cheating when there obviously is. Is Ariana's talent and fame all it takes to make people want to see the best in her? Even though she's been proven to have made a habit out of getting involved with settled men? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronic 61 Posted December 24, 2024 Share Posted December 24, 2024 Kindness punks Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 146,612 Posted December 24, 2024 Share Posted December 24, 2024 Why...is this anybody's business lmao I can't fathom caring about the personal relationships between Ari, her man, and her man's ex. 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy 11,704 Posted December 24, 2024 Share Posted December 24, 2024 3 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said: Is Ariana's talent and fame all it takes to make people want to see the best in her? Even though she's been proven to have made a habit out of getting involved with settled men? Yeah I think it is to be honest I can't even criticize fans that much for doing it because I know if it was Gaga I would be defending her even if I knew she had done wrong 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flippy 11,783 Posted December 24, 2024 Share Posted December 24, 2024 ps: @Bronco, you’re forever one of my faves TMBT 3.22.11 // TBTWB 1.17.13 // ArtRAVE 6.3.14 // C2CT 5.28.15 // TJWT 8.13.17 // Chromatica World Tour 9.8.22 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzkill 4,918 Posted December 24, 2024 Share Posted December 24, 2024 All the things i know abt ari and this little man is told by his ex wife tho, imo they have been quite discrete abt their relathionship, i know its probably being super hard on her raising their children without support, but i’m pretty sure she has the resources to provide a safe and confortable enviroment for her children. I understand also that the end of a relathionship is not an essy thing, but eventually you need to move on, so move on. It only hurts you as much as you let it to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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