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Russia revises nuclear doctrine in response to US-Ukraine


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Does it mean that if Ukraine used the missiles provided by the US by Biden on Russia, then Russia would consider that as a joint attack from Ukraine AND from the US?

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So much for just another bluff from Putin, they literally put the thing in writing and offical policy which is entirely different from vague statements.

I was telling all of you this in another thread but as always, nobody would listen. I remember this site telling me that Putin was bluffing in the prior to the 2022 invasion as well.

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5 minutes ago, Lucas said:

Does it mean that if Ukraine used the missiles provided by the US by Biden on Russia, then Russia would consider that as a joint attack from Ukraine AND from the US?

That is exactly what it means. These missiles cant be fired without the expertise and assistance of the United States

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8 minutes ago, King of the Fall said:

That is exactly what it means. These missiles cant be fired without the expertise and assistance of the United States

It makes sense tbh, even if it's for the worst. 

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3 minutes ago, Lucas said:

Does it mean that if Ukraine used the missiles provided by the US by Biden on Russia, then Russia would consider that as a joint attack from Ukraine AND from the US?

In theory. Just like cutting all those communications and internet cables in the Baltic sea should have theoretically triggered nato article 5. In practice it's just posturing, they reserve the ability to attack but they have nothing to gain from widening the conflict so they won't attack the UK or US.

This isn't the first time they did this in the current conflict. Russia has previously updated their nuclear doctrine to strike first if they're being invaded. And Russia is currently being "invaded" in 5 of the oblasts that Putin and Russian law consider as part of Russia, including internationally recognized Russian territory in Kursk.

This is just meant to sow panic to people like the person above me who have been shouting from day 1 that sending Ukraine a couple of helmets will result in worldwide nuclear annihilation.

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6 minutes ago, Illuminati said:

This is just meant to sow panic to people like the person above me who have been shouting from day 1 that sending Ukraine a couple of helmets will result in worldwide nuclear annihilation.

I was an advocate of sending Ukraine military aid when the war broke out in 2022. Stop your lies please

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“Russian President Vladimir Putin seeks to intimidate the West by expanding the conditions for using nuclear weapons in Russia’s updated nuclear doctrine, German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock said on Nov. 19.

Speaking at a news conference in Poland during a meeting of foreign ministers from Germany, Poland, France, and Italy, Baerbock emphasized that Berlin would heed warnings from Ukraine's neighboring countries.

"We will not let ourselves be intimidated," she said, adding that this is not the first time the Kremlin has resorted to nuclear threats.”

https://kyivindependent.com/baerbock-putin-nuclear-doctrine/
 

This is a desperate move from Russia. They didn’t send nukes when occupied territory faced strikes and they didn’t send nukes when their own borders were invaded and occupied. 
 

Putin is aggressive, but he’s not an irrational actor. Russia is not going to wipe itself out because Ukraine strikes supply chains and military bases in a war it’s started. 

The US response will be interesting.

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