Bronco 6,382 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 20 minutes ago, FATCAT said: They are not mutually exclusive. Tell that to the indie acts who get nowhere on the charts despite putting out better music than Morgan Wallen. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMRer 3,076 Posted October 28 Author Share Posted October 28 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Shadow said: What is art, quality music, to you? Isn't good, quality music worth paying for? Isn't commercial success a reflection of that? I could have used lots of words but by quality I was just refering to everybody liking the song. And that correlation... Don't go there, there's infinite ammount of trash songs that are commercially successful Edited October 28 by AMRer 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 59,051 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 4 minutes ago, Bronco said: Tell that to the indie acts who get nowhere on the charts despite putting out better music than Morgan Wallen. I'm not saying every commercial success is quality, I'm just saying they have overlap I can't be free if my hands are tied... 🧟♀️👰🏻 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 6,432 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 2 minutes ago, AMRer said: I could have used lots of words but by quality I was just refering to everybody liking the song. And that correlation... Don't go there, there's infinite ammount of trash songs that are commercially successfull Like the difference between critically acclaimed movies and commercially successful ones? Perhaps quality is in the eye of the beholder and who's willing to sponsor the endeavor? 🖤“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” ― Mark Twain Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinasawachanta 2,665 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 I can't believe this is even a question Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Flower 3,803 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Both if possible Drop it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMRer 3,076 Posted October 28 Author Share Posted October 28 5 minutes ago, Shadow said: Like the difference between critically acclaimed movies and commercially successful ones? Perhaps quality is in the eye of the beholder and who's willing to sponsor the endeavor? Don't overanalyse this, it was just "do you prefer to like the song or that it is commercially siccessful?" It's not a philosophical post 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr S 8,179 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 42 minutes ago, bionic said: Can you post that gif without ARTPOP Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMRer 3,076 Posted October 28 Author Share Posted October 28 6 minutes ago, rinasawachanta said: I can't believe this is even a question Well, there's people voting for the second option, so yeah Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr S 8,179 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 While I'd love both, it's quality > commercial performance Unfortunately I find Disease a bit of a letdown. It's not bad, but not great either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliviaRodrigoStan 4,384 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 11 minutes ago, AMRer said: I was not here for Applause yet. OMG I think I would have gone under depression if that was way worst It was infinitely worse . To the point I left the site for years, cause it was actively ruining the experience for me. For me personally the worst case was "Venus". It was rumored to be the second single, and everyone was excited because the song was described by journalists as "a hit", and "similar to Bad Romance". Which it is, Venus is very much on the same vein as Poker Face, Bad Romance and Judas. Musically wise, it's on that vecinity. But when the song leaked, everyone had a meltdown because the song was "too weird" for radio, and they were upset because it wasn't going to be the #1 hit they wanted it to be . I was so happy because I loved the song, but I had to deal with the negativity of little managers, angry because it wasn't safe enough for radio, and I was like "these bitches are so lame" . It was such a toxic place to be in, as a Lady GaGa fan. But now? bestie, this is paradise . It's so nice in here compared to her previous eras, it's crazy . I think everyone is mostly just enjoying the music. Joker 2 was the biggest flop of her career, and the atmosphere in here was still quite pisitive. This forum changed for the better over the years, IMO. HEART OF EVER-FROST Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMRer 3,076 Posted October 28 Author Share Posted October 28 3 minutes ago, OliviaRodrigoStan said: It was infinitely worse . To the point I left the site for years, cause it was actively ruining the experience for me. For me personally the worst case was "Venus". It was rumored to be the second single, and everyone was excited because the song was described by journalists as "a hit", and "similar to Bad Romance". Which it is, Venus is very much on the same vein as Poker Face, Bad Romance and Judas. Musically wise, it's on that vecinity. But when the song leaked, everyone had a meltdown because the song was "too weird" for radio, and they were upset because it wasn't going to be the #1 hit they wanted it to be . I was so happy because I loved the song, but I had to deal with the negativity of little managers, angry because it wasn't safe enough for radio, and I was like "these bitches are so lame" . It was such a toxic place to be in, as a Lady GaGa fan. But now? bestie, this is paradise . It's so nice in here compared to her previous eras, it's crazy . I think everyone is mostly just enjoying the music. Joker 2 was the biggest flop of her career, and the atmosphere in here was still quite pisitive. This forum changed for the better over the years, IMO. Wow you are describing hell, I am so glad I was not around back then Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobina 1,296 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 I just want to be in love with the music. If it becomes a commercial success, that's just the cherry on top. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliviaRodrigoStan 4,384 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 7 minutes ago, AMRer said: Wow you are describing hell, I am so glad I was not around back then Even mainstream media was actively participating on the negativity. Glee, which was a popular TV Show at the time, had a full episode dedicated to the "Applause" vs "Roar" theme, and had interviews with the main cast, asking them whether they preferred GaGa or Katy (and most said Katy ). It was very difficult to engage with the online community, AND enjoy the music. The narrative around her was too negative. But now it's honestly super nice, at least in comparison . HEART OF EVER-FROST 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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