LG2008 2,971 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, TylerMedeiros said: SPOILERS: Hide contents I’m so mad that the film didn’t end with her getting him arrested and her dance song on the stairs. and then they kill Joker? wut? great movie but wut in the… She has enough star power to ask for rewrites. She should use it because exactly the same happened with House of Gucci... Writing and director's decisions on both movies suck... She's really good but the final products were mid to say the least because of writers and directors I don't want her to work with Ridley or Todd ever again... What a waste I'm glad almost everyone at least saw what she's capable of and how talented she is... At least she got critical acclaim, those 10 million and we got an amazing companion album out of this mess of a movie... Todd, when I catch you... Edited October 1 by LG2008 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven 5,383 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 1 minute ago, LG2008 said: She has enough star power to ask for rewrites. She should use it because exactly the same happened with House of Gucci... Writing and director's decisions on both movies suck... She's really good but the final products were mid to say the least because of writers and directors I don't want her to work with Ridley or Todd ever again... What a waste I'm glad almost everyone at least saw of what she's capable of and how talented she is... She needs to go for some low budget / psychological drama next time, please no more big blockbusters for a while. 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern Ecstasy2 2,148 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 It’s good in my opinion. I really did not like the musical component. Overall I liked the first one much more. Feel like Gaga was robbed. The general atmosphere in the theatre at the end was “meh”. “Delete this thread that person is not Gaga he is a hot blonde twink” 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitherz 2,125 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 ……………………………………. anyway I’m so excited for LG7!!! 6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
63grekke 1,155 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 (edited) Spoiler Free Thoughts: - Gaga's acting was phenomenal, but the movie was a major letdown. - There was no real plot, just a rehash of the first movie’s events with nothing new to offer. - Harley had no character arc, and Gaga was underused with many scenes cut. - The pacing was off throughout. - There were way too many musical numbers, to the point where some felt unnecessary. -The musical numbers, while great on their own, didn’t effectively show their shared delusions. They started and ended randomly with awkward blackouts, making the editing feel messy. - Some might call the movie a courtroom drama, but the guilt debate was pointless. Everyone knew he was guilty, making the entire sequence a waste of time. - The ending made no sense at all. I’m disappointed because the first movie had an actual plot and something meaningful to say unlike this one. I don’t understand how this script was approved. Edited October 1 by 63grekke 1 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avalon x 4,081 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 (edited) <Spoilers ahead, don't proceed if you haven't seen the movie> I don't think Gaga was under-utilized, I was surprised to see her as much as I did. But the only reason I enjoyed the movie was because of her acting and the music from Harlequin. It was really fun to see when each track came up during the movie, they all showed up besides Spoiler Smile, Good Morning and Happy Mistake. That being said it definitely felt like a musical and imo there was just too much of it. The amount of times they played/referenced 'Oh when the Saints' and 'That's Entertainment'... they even put in 'World on a String' twice, Jesus. Gaga was the right choice for the movie and she elevated the movie with her album like no other actress could. But was the movie right for her? Lee's arc was so weak. So she's just a Spoiler rich girl that took a trip to the asylum because she's obsessed with the joker? And the very predictable lie about being pregnant? I understand that this is a different universe but the only thing harley quinn about her was her tights. /exaggerated Overall, it started off great. The pacing was good for the first 15-20 minutes but they just made a movie about Spoiler an uneventful a** trial where the joker does nothing creative to defend himself, gets back into prison and gets shanked to death. All while getting dumped by some crazy pathological liar that he met in the asylum. There were so many missed opportunities. The waltz which I thought would have been more signifcant was tiny and barely meant anything. The explosion and escape from the trial could have led to so much more. The plot could have gone deeper, the visuals could have gone harder but it was just some imaginary musical numbers inside a guy's head with a mediocre ending. (Which Todd himself spoiled during the conference in Venice fyi) I'm gonna watch it again and hope it grows on me like HoG did. But I will say I do not like DC movies so maybe I disliked the pacing/plot because of it. Edited October 1 by avalon x 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G U C C I 5,388 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 19 minutes ago, LG2008 said: She has enough star power to ask for rewrites. She should use it because exactly the same happened with House of Gucci... Writing and director's decisions on both movies suck... She's really good but the final products were mid to say the least because of writers and directors I don't want her to work with Ridley or Todd ever again... What a waste I'm glad almost everyone at least saw what she's capable of and how talented she is... At least she got critical acclaim, those 10 million and we got an amazing companion album out of this mess of a movie... Todd, when I catch you... You’re absolutely correct in her being a big enough star to ask for rewrites. But based off the pap pics of the filming she was given more and they ultimately did what they wanted and cut her. She can ask for rewrites and more content but if she wasn’t suppose to be a true stand out performance in the first place then editing is going to take charge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaybeKermit 3,992 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 1 minute ago, G U C C I said: You’re absolutely correct in her being a big enough star to ask for rewrites. But based off the pap pics of the filming she was given more and they ultimately did what they wanted and cut her. She can ask for rewrites and more content but if she wasn’t suppose to be a true stand out performance in the first place then editing is going to take charge. Tbh my thoughts are maybe that they weren’t happy with her performance overall and that’s why they cut so much out of it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G U C C I 5,388 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 1 minute ago, MaybeKermit said: Tbh my thoughts are maybe that they weren’t happy with her performance overall and that’s why they cut so much out of it? Totally could be. They either didn’t like it or never wanted her there in the first place. Either way I’m just kinda jaded I was so hyped for three years and then this is the product. On to LG7 I guess. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 104,132 Posted October 1 Author Share Posted October 1 Just now, G U C C I said: never wanted her there in the first place. That won't make sense since they casted her on their own accord. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ 𝘞𝘦 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘥𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘦𝘥 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘐 𝘸𝘢𝘴 17 (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyanDante 5,848 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 36 minutes ago, LG2008 said: She has enough star power to ask for rewrites. She should use it because exactly the same happened with House of Gucci... Writing and director's decisions on both movies suck... She's really good but the final products were mid to say the least because of writers and directors I don't want her to work with Ridley or Todd ever again... What a waste Todd, when I catch you... Todd was the main producer of ASIB btw I'm not very good with Social Mediaᵀᴹ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG2008 2,971 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 (edited) 18 minutes ago, G U C C I said: You’re absolutely correct in her being a big enough star to ask for rewrites. But based off the pap pics of the filming she was given more and they ultimately did what they wanted and cut her. She can ask for rewrites and more content but if she wasn’t suppose to be a true stand out performance in the first place then editing is going to take charge. The full scene at the stairs would've been way better and she was singing like her life depended on it... I just can't believe they cut that and kept most of the movie lol... She was definitely one of the best things in the movie but most of her scenes felt incomplete. How is it possible that no one said something about that when they were testing the movie? Without considering what they cut, the editing was bad too It seems like they rushed it but they had sooo much time to release a polished final product Edited October 1 by LG2008 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG2008 2,971 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 (edited) 8 minutes ago, CyanDante said: Todd was the main producer of ASIB btw I know Maybe he should just do that and let someone else direct lol jk... I think it's beautiful but it lacks something + Bradley carried ASIB, I think it was mostly him They definitely did not make the right decisions Edited October 1 by LG2008 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantasmas 9,927 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 (edited) it was interesting to see where the songs from Harlequin were gonna fit into the movie, or where they transpired from? i stayed away from spoilers and trailers in general but the album ended up laying out the story like i thought it would be so the album lowkey spoiled ?? idk if that makes sense lol and Gonna Build a Mountain is still that gworl Edited October 1 by phantasmas Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G U C C I 5,388 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 12 minutes ago, RAMROD said: That won't make sense since they casted her on their own accord. Warner Bros had a huge hand in casting her. Joaquin and Todd both discussed wanting Joaquin’s wife as Lee three years ago when it was announced that Gaga being in the movie was in a thing. 6 minutes ago, CyanDante said: Todd was the main producer of ASIB btw He was because he was half owner of the production company with Bradley that produced ASIB. Just like Bradley was credited as a producer for the first Joker. They dissolved their production company in 2020-21 and now are no longer credited in each others work. Maestro was in development before they dissolved but I’m not sure how Todd is credited for that film 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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