RenegAde 18,187 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 1 minute ago, LanaLana said: Pretty sure they purposely did that to get us to buy the tickets and watch. I agree it's better for her to be in the supporting category rather than lead. She probably has more chance to win in the supporting category. Fair but why is everyone in this thread making it seem like it is such an overreaction for people to feel disappointed that a product is truly not the way it was marketed 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 104,860 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 You guys need to learn the difference between lead billed actors and lead/supporting characters. Harley is a supporting character for Joker, it's his story, not hers, it was always been the case. Just like how Skippy is a supporting character to Hawk in Fellow Traveler or Richie and Sydney are supporting characters to Carmy in The Bear but the actors are billed as lead actors in both. I could play the moderator, I can ban you, die sis. 6 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versace 7,860 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 28 minutes ago, Sneaky Oliver said: I don’t think she is rushing back to music because she’s unsatisfied with the final result of the film, I think she and her team had all this year planned to the tee. So they’re just following the schedule no matter how good or bad the film is or the reception of it is Yes exactly. What even are these assumptions lol. Her team plans things months if not years in advance and if she truly felt unsatisfied she would want to be out of the public eye for a while, not release a single in the same month. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanaLana 9 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 7 minutes ago, RenegAde said: Fair but why is everyone in this thread making it seem like it is such an overreaction for people to feel disappointed that a product is truly not the way it was marketed I think it's fine for people to be disappointed since they did market it as Gaga being the lead (trailers, tweets, etc). 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegAde 18,187 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Versace said: Maybe you’re gaslighting yourself? Nothing is confirmed yet. Has anyone here seen it? She could very well have a lead like role and still apply for supporting at the Oscars? What is there to be disappointed about as of now? No, because I'm not the one acting like people's genuine and valid reactions is unreasonable. This movie was promoted as a co lead role and anything short of that will be disingenuous. Production has already showed signs of this with the ambiguity about this movie being a musical or not. People are entitled to express their valid concerns about disappointing reports and its gaslighting to act like these concerns are nonsensical because even though nothing is confirmed yet, we all know there's some validity to these reports especially when many initial reviews have mentioned a lack of Gaga. Edited September 18 by RenegAde 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versace 7,860 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 1 minute ago, RenegAde said: No, because I'm not the one acting like people's genuine and valid reactions is unreasonable. This movie was promoted as a co lead role and anything short of that will be disingenuous. Production has already showed signs of this with the ambiguity about this movie being a musical or not. People are entitled to express their valid concerns about disappointing reports and its gasligting to act like these concerns are nonsensical becauseb evenn though Nothing is confirmed yet we all know there's some validity to these reportsb especially when many initial reviews have mentioned a lack of Gaga. Maybe wait and watch it first, then express these feelings if you feel its warranted, so that at least you don’t gaslight yourself if you end up feeling satisfied with it? 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 2,936 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 The movie is about him so obviously shes a supporting role Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliviaRodrigoStan 4,383 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 I don't understand the pessimistic tone here from some of you . She had zero chances of winning as a lead actress against Angelina Jolie, her portrayal of Maria Callas seems rather impressive (regardless of whether the movie is good or not) . But against Ariana Grande I mean, I could see that happening .Also "supporting actress" is not a "minor" category, it just means the role was less prominent within the film, not that the acting itself was on a lesser category . A lot of big stars only oscar is just that. I think Angelina Jolie's oscar for Girl Interrupted, was in the "supporting actress" category, and it is considered her best acting ever. Y'all complain about everything . HEART OF EVER-FROST 4 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegAde 18,187 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 4 minutes ago, Versace said: Maybe wait and watch it first, then express these feelings if you feel its warranted, so that at least you don’t gaslight yourself if you end up feeling satisfied with it? Huh? Im personally not condemning the movie, we're just reacting to the reports like everyone does online. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Panda 7,592 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 I think some of us have known this since the Venice reviews. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwerk 6,984 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 50 minutes ago, TEETHTEETH said: The movie is called Joker. (Not Harley) OBVIOUSLY she has the supporting role. As we now know. But that wasn't clear from the start. The movie is not called Joker. Is is called Joker Folie a deux. Deux as in two people. Phoenix and Gaga were top billed from the start. The earliest teaser shows them both. Don't act like it wasn't thought they'd both lead in the beginning. At least that's what they wanted us to believe. I'm fine with her role being smaller, I'm sure it will be great. I just hope its not a wasted opportunity because the initial idea and her character seem so interesting and this will be the final movie in this universe apparently. According to Gaga I'm a ****ing rad bitch 5 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyanDante 5,848 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 1 hour ago, SHALLOW said: Is Ariana a threat? Selena is a threat, she is most likely to get a nomination. I'm not very good with Social Mediaᵀᴹ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoremonLove 8,117 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 (edited) 55 minutes ago, RenegAde said: Chile not yall gaslighting us. I appreciate the sentiment but we're entitled to feel disappointed and a bit robbed because this movie was promoted as though Gaga had a lead role and no one can deny that. This i agree with. Its a bit of a shock tht shes not lead i was very much thinking both joker n harley will dominate together but well supporting is also very good. Ill just pray she shines with whatever we have. Im hoping for just a nomination at oscars Edited September 18 by DoremonLove How can anoyone not love gaga 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundofSilence 167 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, HelloHangoverz said: not to be dumb but why is this bad? i'm not really a movie girlie its kinda not a good look for voters, to present someone as lead of your film then submit that actor as supporting maybe just to get a nom for your movie or even win easily..there is a change she actually get snub again...since the projection of this movie are kinda "bad" so if its not big, there is a small change of getting an actual nom...would be based only on Gaga's acting power since the movie is not going to do 1B to get attention and noms like the last joker... with HOG last time she got 4/5 noms in the "big fives" no oscar bc voters did pick someone else to that spot, she kinda deserved to be nominated at that time. the race was kinda hard too so yeah... on supporter catg, u have selena, Gaga ,ariana, JLo, Nicole k etc and all the supp actresses from others movies that i don't even saw/know yet...so take in mind maybe 2/3 of the 5 i mentioned are going to get a nom.. also its known that Todd did cut a lot of Gaga's scenes idk if they did that on purpose to downplay her character in post-production and editing bc of chance to submit her as supporting actress and get buzz or a possible win, and Joaquin "carrying" the movie as LEAD and play it safe... like last movie...critics already loudly say Gaga needed more screentime....and its Todds Fault. Edited September 18 by SoundofSilence 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheCloset 17,754 Posted September 18 Author Share Posted September 18 1 hour ago, SHALLOW said: Is Ariana a threat? She actually is. The promo for her movie is far better. Plus she has started saying that she dyed her hair and eyebrows to get away drom her pop persona and bring glinda to life. So they are campaigning well Where's the spunk, Adam? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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