The possibility of Justin's Believe tour out grossing the BTWB? Update

[alejandroscunt 0]

This is just a hypothetical for all of you to think about and discuss, this is not about comparing the two or saying who is better it's just a simple observation. The believe tour started in September 2012 in N America and Justin has currently done 49 shows with a gross of $54,309,636 with 727,392 tickets sold. The tour's next stops are Europe with 41 stops, South Africa (same stadiums gaga played) and then back to N America for a further 30 shows. The tour is also rumoured to go to the Middle East and Australasia in 2013.

With 122 shows confirmed, I think the entire N America leg will probably gross around $90 million. Gaga's BTWB is said to make between $200/215 million. So I highly doubt Justin can make $115 million from Europe, Africa and Australia but I do think it will be closeish. The Believe tour's N American legs are incredible tbh and I believe this was a mistake for the BTWB not going to N America at the beginning, however I think for the ARTPOP ball gaga should start in N America and then go back at the end of the tour to go after that gross.

For comparison:

Believe tour : Rose Garden, Portland. 14,550 / 14,550 (100%), $990,553

BTWB Tour: Rose Garden, Portland. 8,853 / 8,853 (100%), $791,496

Believe tour: Tacoma Dome, Tacoma. 20,259 / 20,259 (100%), $1,338,701

BTWB Tour: Tacoma Dome, Tacoma. 14,185 / 14,185 (100%), $1,258,450

ARTPOP ball - Gaga should definitely hit (in order) N America, Europe, Middle East (Israel, turkey, UAE) Africa, Asia, South America and then back to N America. Perhaps around 200 shows? with a mixture of stadiums and arenas in the right places wkth moderate ticket prices. Now that's a lot of shows but I believe around the time of the ARTPOP volume 2 release gaga should release the 2nd N American tour dates. Gaga could definitely reach $300 million.

UPDATE:

Ok a lot of people are talking about ticket prices, yes his ticket prices are cheaper than gaga's however look at the numbers.... I'm not sure how much his tickets are in Europe but for the sake of argument let's say they are $70 ok so he's playing 3 dates in Sweden and 3 dates in Norway:

Telenor Arena, Norway capacity 23,000:

Average BTWB ticket $120 - Tickets sold: 14,566 / 14,566 (100%) gross: $1,748,812

Believe est. ticket $70 - potential tickets sold from 3 shows: 69,000 estimated gross: $4,830,000

Ericsson Globe, Sweden capacity 14,000:

Average BTWB ticket $103 - tickets sold: 27,447 / 27,447 (100%) gross from 2 shows: $2,848,530

Believe est. ticket $70 - potential tickets sold from 3 shows: 42,000 estimated gross: $2,940,000

What I'm trying to say is it doesn't matter if you have crazy ticket prices if you sell enough tickets at moderate prices you will get that gross. So if Justin keeps these sales up in Europe and subsequently Australasia and S America, he will indeed surpass the BTWB or come very very close. But I hope he doesn't surpass gaga (obviously)

Thoughts?

[iAstroLeo 14,383]

I doubt it tbh :nails:

[Chic 20,830]

We're talking about someone who's so desperate to get the most Twitter followers that he leaks a picture of his ass

I can't imagine what he'll do on tour to make money

[Wild 1,296]

He sings? :duhga:

[Jesse Pinkman 4,660]

Gaga did right going to na last tbh, it hypes the fanbase up for ARTPOP and now the tour is completely evolved and at its beat in her most important touring market.

[GreenEyes 984]

I can't imagine how tired she is when this tour is almost to and end and the ARTPOP tour starting maybe end of this year beginning of next year.

[Miley 5,006]

Idk they just keep adding dates in Sweden for his tour.. right now 40k tickets sold here

[Born Brave 2,072]

This is somewhat related... I have a friend that I talk to alot who actually happens to be a top 5 finalist from American Idol (last season simon was on there)

They said that when Justin Bieber performed on Idol it wasn't actually a live performance and they went back in after the filming and added autotune :fan:

[Galactic Mess 1,393]

Well, I don't think he'll outgross it, but he might come relatively close (with like 150 -170m).

[Sexxx 5,547]

I swear the number of times he brings up his shirt to reveal his chest (then cheekily glances at it) >>> the number of songs he actually sings :toofunny:

[Easto 143]

So many little ignorant girls

Everyone I know hates him so I honestly don't know how he sales so much.

[GagaSlayedYou 2]

Doesn't matter how much you can gross, the matter is have quality :hor:

[Tyler D 11]

He barely sings live. I would never give money to such arrogant untalented guy.

And I doubt he makes more than Gaga. Well, unless he does many more shows than her, ofc,

[Runway 27,876]

his tickets are cheap as ****, he'd have to do close to 180-200+ dates

[Pity Party 743]

I really doubt it, i only know one person who likes him

Although there are a lot of tasteless young girls in the world, so i guess we'll see :shrug: