Oprah Winfrey Steps Down From Weight Watchers Board After Revelation Using WL Drugs

[SharkmanthaC 111,828]

  On 3/1/2024 at 5:36 AM, Railing said:

(If this is about Ozempic) I think it's dangerous how much these people ignore that Ozempic is a medication for people with type 2 diabetes  It wasn't "medically approved" for your weight loss shortcut girlie

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However, Wegovy, which is the same exact medication was. Not saying this is what she was taking but we can’t just assume everyone was taking Ozempic. (Oprah could have also been diabetic for all we know.) 

[SharkmanthaC 111,828]

  On 3/1/2024 at 5:05 AM, President Biden said:

dumbest thing ive ever read

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Oh please tell me more about how you’ve never experienced life in a bigger body or struggled with your weight. Check your privilege. 

[Maxine Puth 9,053]

  On 3/1/2024 at 1:36 PM, SharkmanthaC said:

Oh please tell me more about how you’ve never experienced life in a bigger body or struggled with your weight. Check your privilege. 

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To be fair, weight loss is, for like 95% of people, a matter of self control and making good diet choices.  When I was 100+ lbs overweight I used to tell myself I was that 5% who had some medical issues or something because that’s what the media I was consuming was telling me. Turns out I was shoving my face with thousands of extra calories a day that I most definitely didn’t need. My weight fluctuates a lot now but I never not know why anymore.
 

Even though we have no idea about @President Biden’s weight, you most definitely don’t need to go through obesity or weight gain to understand how the average human body works, kinda bored of the whole “check your privilege” argument.

I’ll even go as far as saying that shutting down people who claim that it falls down to self control is inherently dangerous for those of us who have fed into the narrative that we can’t change our health and are stuck with bigger bodies and the baggage that comes with it (higher health risks, lower body image, lower self esteem, etc.). If there’s a group of people reading this right now who are obese and want to lose weight, I’d argue that most of them would if they just restricted their caloric intake. 

[SharkmanthaC 111,828]

  On 3/1/2024 at 1:55 PM, Maxine Puth said:

To be fair, weight loss is, for like 95% of people, a matter of self control and making good diet choices.  When I was 100+ lbs overweight I used to tell myself I was that 5% who had some medical issues or something because that’s what the media I was consuming was telling me. Turns out I was shoving my face with thousands of extra calories a day that I most definitely didn’t need. My weight fluctuates a lot now but I never not know why anymore.
 

Even though we have no idea about @President Biden’s weight, you most definitely don’t need to go through obesity or weight gain to understand how the average human body works, kinda bored of the whole “check your privilege” argument.

I’ll even go as far as saying that shutting down people who claim that it falls down to self control is inherently dangerous for those of us who have fed into the narrative that we can’t change our health and are stuck with bigger bodies and the baggage that comes with it (higher health risks, lower body image, lower self esteem, etc.). If there’s a group of people reading this right now who are obese and want to lose weight, I’d argue that most of them would if they just restricted their caloric intake. 

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I’ve been going to a weight loss clinic for years. I have ate their meal plans. I have exercised. Lost maybe 10 pounds. The only thing that helped me was Wegovy. It was a life changing medication. I have PCOS which causes me to have insulin resistance. My doctor told me after starting Wegovy, it just shows how hard my body was working against me to lose weight. So while, yeah I’m sure there are people that can just lose weight with will power, there are those of us that cannot. I have labs that back up that. What I can appreciate is your respectful discussion of it. Not someone just out right saying it’s the dumbest thing they’ve heard. Obesity is more complicated than just calories and exercise. 

[Bronco 8,242]

  On 3/1/2024 at 1:55 PM, Maxine Puth said:

To be fair, weight loss is, for like 95% of people, a matter of self control and making good diet choices.  When I was 100+ lbs overweight I used to tell myself I was that 5% who had some medical issues or something because that’s what the media I was consuming was telling me. Turns out I was shoving my face with thousands of extra calories a day that I most definitely didn’t need. My weight fluctuates a lot now but I never not know why anymore.
 

Even though we have no idea about @President Biden’s weight, you most definitely don’t need to go through obesity or weight gain to understand how the average human body works, kinda bored of the whole “check your privilege” argument.

I’ll even go as far as saying that shutting down people who claim that it falls down to self control is inherently dangerous for those of us who have fed into the narrative that we can’t change our health and are stuck with bigger bodies and the baggage that comes with it (higher health risks, lower body image, lower self esteem, etc.). If there’s a group of people reading this right now who are obese and want to lose weight, I’d argue that most of them would if they just restricted their caloric intake. 

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People who claim it is exclusively due to "self control" are charlatans with no actual scientific understanding of the body's digestive system or the nutritional value of food and energy gained through food. 

"Just restricted their caloric intake" sounds great on paper, but without actual changes to what is being eaten as part of that caloric intake it's useless information. Lets say my target calories for a singular day is 1800, I could eat 2/3 meals a day with no snacks and keep to that count perfectly. I'd likely lose minimal weight & see no change to overall health. 
Why? Because it is far more important to consider what is contained within those calories. If that 1800 calorie consumption a day includes a high total of fats, sugar etc your body is still going to struggle. 
Then there's the issue of vitamins & minerals, I've gained weight due to a poorly managed diet (which actually came in at around 2000kcal a day through tracking (RDI for a man is 2500). I was also an active rugby player in the period where my weight gain occured. The actual problem for me is that my diet was **** and lacked neccessary nutritional content to support bodily functions including those needed for weight loss. 

Eating less isn't a cure. Especially if you have a lower metabolic rate. Anyone who pushes the narrative that people lose weight by just not eating as much are snake oil salesmen. 

I'd encourage anyone looking to lose weight, especially if they've previously tried & failed, look at dietitians & PTs who can help you both with the mindfulness needed for self control around snacking, bingeing etc and also help you ensure that what you are eating be it under restricted intake or not is actually going to work for you. And make sure (in the UK at least and I believe some states) you see a dietitian not a nutritionist - dietitians are board certfieid experts and it is a legally regulated role not your mum's mate deborah who believes foods are sins. 

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  On 3/1/2024 at 5:36 AM, Railing said:

(If this is about Ozempic) I think it's dangerous how much these people ignore that Ozempic is a medication for people with type 2 diabetes  It wasn't "medically approved" for your weight loss shortcut girlie

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It is medically approved, it’s just called wegovy for that purpose 

[TheSine 6,156]

  On 3/1/2024 at 5:05 AM, President Biden said:

dumbest thing ive ever read

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Oh buzz off.

[Maxine Puth 9,053]

  On 3/1/2024 at 2:31 PM, Bronco said:

People who claim it is exclusively due to "self control" are charlatans with no actual scientific understanding of the body's digestive system or the nutritional value of food and energy gained through food. 

"Just restricted their caloric intake" sounds great on paper, but without actual changes to what is being eaten as part of that caloric intake it's useless information. Lets say my target calories for a singular day is 1800, I could eat 2/3 meals a day with no snacks and keep to that count perfectly. I'd likely lose minimal weight & see no change to overall health. 
Why? Because it is far more important to consider what is contained within those calories. If that 1800 calorie consumption a day includes a high total of fats, sugar etc your body is still going to struggle. 

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Funny you used 1800 calories because that was actually my restriction 6/7 days of the week when I had my weight loss (went from 310 to 190 lbs in a year)  mind you I wasn’t paying any attention at all to my fats, proteins, carbs, etc. so unless I just got lucky with what I was eating (I doubt it, considering what I ate) then what you claim definitely isn’t a one size fits all thing.
 

Yes, nutrition is extremely important, and I won’t claim that what I was doing was healthy, but it worked. And like I said before, it’s not a valid answer for everyone but I would argue the majority of people who want to lose weight could simply restrict their caloric intake and lose weight. And I’m not saying that to deceive anyone. The majority of the US population didn’t just become overweight because our food stopped being nutritious. This isn’t some scam I’m trying to run, and I’ve had conversations about this with people who study and have graduated with exercise science degrees. 

[Bronco 8,242]

  On 3/1/2024 at 3:47 PM, Maxine Puth said:

Funny you used 1800 calories because that was actually my restriction 6/7 days of the week when I had my weight loss (went from 310 to 190 lbs in a year)  mind you I wasn’t paying any attention at all to my fats, proteins, carbs, etc. so unless I just got lucky with what I was eating (I doubt it, considering what I ate) then what you claim definitely isn’t a one size fits all thing.
 

Yes, nutrition is extremely important, and I won’t claim that what I was doing was healthy, but it worked. And like I said before, it’s not a valid answer for everyone but I would argue the majority of people who want to lose weight could simply restrict their caloric intake and lose weight. And I’m not saying that to deceive anyone. The majority of the US population didn’t just become overweight because our food stopped being nutritious. This isn’t some scam I’m trying to run, and I’ve had conversations about this with people who study and have graduated with exercise science degrees. 

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What I was trying to point out is it's far better to do what is healthy for your body & mind. And yeah there's no denying the Western diet of places like the US, Canada, UK etc have seen food become significantly less nutritious so even if you try eating healthy it's a minefield. 

I hate seeing the "its about self control" thing with food, because it's very ignorant of why disordered eating exists and often the "sources" (not you) out there promoting it are essentially encouraging changing from one brand of disorded eating to another. 
So someone like me who has mental health problems which often lead to binge eating during depressive spells, it's not actually about self-control for me it's about 1) identifying triggers & 2) changing the bad coping mechanism of binging, for a good coping mechanism because you absolutely have to have coping mechanisms. Otherwise, you only make the problem worse trying to force the symptom to go away in isolation. It's why I've not gone on WeGovy. 
I also hate the "it's about self-control" thing because it says nothing about actually listening to your body and identifying the source of hunger. There's a big difference between a mental craving for food & physical hunger - ignoring physical hunger and cravings often means you're ignoring warning signs for a number of physical issues. 

You have to listen to what your mind & body are telling you. And weight loss can only be achieved & most importantly maintained if you are working with rather than against your mind & body. 

 

[Economy 48,687]

  On 3/1/2024 at 12:48 AM, Babel said:

Another billionaire's hypocrisy exposed, shocking

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Why? Regular ppl are getting their hands on this drug too

 

Oprah didnt hide she was on Ozempic and stepped down as well.

 

I do not see the hypocracy

 

My only issue with this was the shortage it caused for ppl who need it more due to actual diabetes. But this wasnt exclusively caused by the rich only. Their numbers are not large enough to affect such a large market that drastically, a lot if middle/upper middle class had to also participate in the trend

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My mom is overweight and asked her doctor about ozempic and he did not let her take it. It supposedly wreaks havoc on your kidneys and thyroid. He said it only should be used by diabetics or as a very last option to lose weight or to treat drug addiction. He said they still don’t know the long term effects of the drug. 

[President Biden 5,898]

  On 3/1/2024 at 1:36 PM, SharkmanthaC said:

Oh please tell me more about how you’ve never experienced life in a bigger body or struggled with your weight. Check your privilege. 

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I live paycheck to paycheck. 

 

But keep virtue signaling hun