RAMROD 109,397 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 After its explosive Russell Brand joint exposé with The Times made headlines around the world earlier this year, Channel 4 is now making another documentary on another problematic man in the public eye, which will this time focus on Marilyn Manson. The musician, whose real name is Brian Hugh Warner, has faced several lawsuits since 2021, with allegations levied against him made by several women, accusing him of sexual and psychological assault. Among the women who have accused Warner are Game of Thrones actor Esme Bianco and Westworld actor Evan Rachel Wood. Warner has consistently denied all of the allegations against him, claiming that his 'intimate relationships have always been entirely consensual with like-minded partners'. According to an official synopsis of the documentary, Marilyn Manson: Behind the Mask'will look at multiple allegations of sexual assault made against the US singer'. The documentary ‘has access to several of the accusers, lifelong fans, industry insiders, lawyers, a former band mate and his childhood best friend. https://www.elle.com/uk/life-and-culture/culture/a45558874/marilyn-manson-documentary/ (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥𝘢 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥𝘢, 𝘥𝘪𝘥𝘯'𝘵 (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzGa 14,620 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 He really sucks and I'm glad it has come out that he is a woman abuser so that we can stop supporting him... but at the same time I feel like watching a documentary about him is still kinda "supporting" him in a way by promoting press about him and he's always courted bad press and I dont need to know the explicit details to know he's a woman abuser so... I won't be watching My old cat is a tough man, but i cant deny the way he bites my hand and he stabs me, he grabs me by my heart <3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling 31,375 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 It's great more of the truth will be revealed. I grew up stanning Marilyn hard so it's been quite an adjustment, but I can't support him after all I've read and ERW's documentary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfessionalClown 10,647 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 We won’t be watching The more that time passes the more obvious it is how false the accusations are (evan’s own acquaintances, her ex, and people who know her have outed her as a liar), all the leaked messages between Evan and illma, the MASS amounts of behind the scenes people who defend manson (who literally have nothing to gain from this), I mean the literal woman in the “groupie” video that Evan said she saw and was graphic and real came out to say Evan was lying and then Evan backtracked. Even one of the biggest names who went against him OUTTED Evan as a liar, shared screenshots and evidence proving Evan basically created a whole group to shame him. She manipulated someone into false memories and shaming Manson. She literally is an abuser herself. But people just don’t like evidence I guess when it goes agains their narrative. The overwhelming evidence is of his innocence. I choose to believe the facts given Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteHotForever 420 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, ProfessionalClown said: We won’t be watching The more that time passes the more obvious it is how false the accusations are (evan’s own acquaintances, her ex, and people who know her have outed her as a liar), all the leaked messages between Evan and illma, the MASS amounts of behind the scenes people who defend manson (who literally have nothing to gain from this), I mean the literal woman in the “groupie” video that Evan said she saw and was graphic and real came out to say Evan was lying and then Evan backtracked. Even one of the biggest names who went against him OUTTED Evan as a liar, shared screenshots and evidence proving Evan basically created a whole group to shame him. She manipulated someone into false memories and shaming Manson. She literally is an abuser herself. But people just don’t like evidence I guess when it goes agains their narrative. The overwhelming evidence is of his innocence. I choose to believe the facts given THANK YOU Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson123 38,294 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 hours ago, ProfessionalClown said: We won’t be watching The more that time passes the more obvious it is how false the accusations are (evan’s own acquaintances, her ex, and people who know her have outed her as a liar), all the leaked messages between Evan and illma, the MASS amounts of behind the scenes people who defend manson (who literally have nothing to gain from this), I mean the literal woman in the “groupie” video that Evan said she saw and was graphic and real came out to say Evan was lying and then Evan backtracked. Even one of the biggest names who went against him OUTTED Evan as a liar, shared screenshots and evidence proving Evan basically created a whole group to shame him. She manipulated someone into false memories and shaming Manson. She literally is an abuser herself. But people just don’t like evidence I guess when it goes agains their narrative. The overwhelming evidence is of his innocence. I choose to believe the facts given Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy 12,516 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 hours ago, ProfessionalClown said: We won’t be watching The more that time passes the more obvious it is how false the accusations are (evan’s own acquaintances, her ex, and people who know her have outed her as a liar), all the leaked messages between Evan and illma, the MASS amounts of behind the scenes people who defend manson (who literally have nothing to gain from this), I mean the literal woman in the “groupie” video that Evan said she saw and was graphic and real came out to say Evan was lying and then Evan backtracked. Even one of the biggest names who went against him OUTTED Evan as a liar, shared screenshots and evidence proving Evan basically created a whole group to shame him. She manipulated someone into false memories and shaming Manson. She literally is an abuser herself. But people just don’t like evidence I guess when it goes agains their narrative. The overwhelming evidence is of his innocence. I choose to believe the facts given Can you pls link me to some of this I'm kinda interested in this case So far I'm believing ERW because I don't see what she would have to gain from accusing him and she also alluded to an abusive ex a long time ago before she seemed ready to name him the meow in zombieboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling 31,375 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 30 minutes ago, Ivy said: Can you pls link me to some of this I'm kinda interested in this case So far I'm believing ERW because I don't see what she would have to gain from accusing him and she also alluded to an abusive ex a long time ago before she seemed ready to name him https://www.billboard.com/lists/marilyn-manson-abuse-allegations-timeline/february-1998-the-long-hard-road-out-of-hell/ https://www.vulture.com/article/marilyn-manson-brian-warner-allegations-news-evan-rachel-wood.html https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/marilyn-manson-allegations-evan-rachel-wood-b2391299.html This should get you started. He, himself, has even admitted to abusing and demeaning others, as early as 25 years ago...Let's not even get started on the Nazi glorification, racist, sexist, homophobic/transphobic acts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfessionalClown 10,647 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 17 hours ago, WheresMy911Alice said: https://www.billboard.com/lists/marilyn-manson-abuse-allegations-timeline/february-1998-the-long-hard-road-out-of-hell/ https://www.vulture.com/article/marilyn-manson-brian-warner-allegations-news-evan-rachel-wood.html https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/marilyn-manson-allegations-evan-rachel-wood-b2391299.html This should get you started. He, himself, has even admitted to abusing and demeaning others, as early as 25 years ago...Let's not even get started on the Nazi glorification, racist, sexist, homophobic/transphobic acts. Long hard road out of hell was probably exaggerated, as it was written with someone else and many of the accounts are probably false. Wes was mad he got fired and has ALWAYS sh- talked manson. He’s trying to gain money from this as he literally was in podcasts n **** you had to PAY to listen to. He never glorified N@zi’s, he used the imagery to liken N@zi Germany and the propaganda to that of Hollywood and American culture in 2003, which is ahead of its time honestly. Also yes he’s said some homophobic/transphobic stuff BUT he has learned and had CONTINUALLY been an advocate for LGBTQ+ rights. Look at the mechanical animals era, he was VERY big against gender norms and was very outspoken about supporting lgbt people, especially youth. He has always been supporting, has given money to many LGBT charities and organizations, has spoken out on trans rights, etc etc. There’s a lot of stuff you don’t see when you’re blinded by media propaganda against someone. It’s just “this is who he is” when in reality the media can change who someone is in an instant because many DO NOT do their research Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfessionalClown 10,647 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 18 hours ago, Ivy said: Can you pls link me to some of this I'm kinda interested in this case So far I'm believing ERW because I don't see what she would have to gain from accusing him and she also alluded to an abusive ex a long time ago before she seemed ready to name him Basically she is gaining notoriety and money. She wants to sue him, she wants monetary gain, alongside using victims voices in a selfish way to up her own organization which has not really anything for victims. The “ex” the was talking about was both Jamie Bell and Manson. She flipped between the two at convenience. If you read testimonials before she named Manson, she spoke about many things that could’ve never happened with manson for different circumstances and things that just don’t match him, but do match Jamie Bell. She went after Jamie Bell first by not naming names, but when Jamie kinda retaliated with his own stuff it shifted to manson. I mean now, Evan doesn’t even care bout her own child as when the issues arose with Jamie on custody etc etc, she recently just let Jamie have custody who is literally in proximity of Mansons residence, after Evan exclaimed Manson USED her child as a form of manipulation. It makes 0 sense as she said herself she never wanted her kid near his place, but suddenly just didn’t care? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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