Red 97,301 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Zaskar said: One thing I don't understand: How come Renaissance Tour is so much successful? I mean the album did avg commercially. It wasn't a blockbuster like Lemonade. Unlike Taylor, she isn't riding a populaity high. She's always known for her impeccable vocals and killer choreo. So, her performance isn't something new to people that they are dying to witness. So why this tour is more successful than any other by other musicians? For Eras tour, there's folklore, evermore, Lover, midnights and the re-releases. All that makes sense. The craze for RWT I don't understand. Beyoncé reached the level of artists like Gaga, Madonna, Britney, etc. that no matter what they are gonna perform, you desire to attend the show cause you know it's gonna be amazing If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat 6,162 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, Zaskar said: One thing I don't understand: How come Renaissance Tour is so much successful? I mean the album did avg commercially. It wasn't a blockbuster like Lemonade. Unlike Taylor, she isn't riding a populaity high. She's always known for her impeccable vocals and killer choreo. So, her performance isn't something new to people that they are dying to witness. So why this tour is more successful than any other by other musicians? For Eras tour, there's folklore, evermore, Lover, midnights and the re-releases. All that makes sense. The craze for RWT I don't understand. Her last tour and album was 7 years ago, I think that also adds to the demand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstertoronto 9,152 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 This is a great achievement but it does all ring a little hollow since everyone knows Eras tour has broken every record and it’s just because they haven’t released figures yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,524 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 What I don't get though is how so many people in this current recession can afford these tickets, not just from Beyonce, but from all the other big name acts that have ongoing tours. So many people were freaking out that they all announced tours at the same time as they feared their budgets wouldn't stretch to go to everyone. Yet, so many people are claiming to have attended multiple dates. I heard of someone who got Taylor tickets in their home country but is also going to see her in Italy and Germany too. You'd think people would be grateful enough to get tickets to such a highly demanded tour and in their own country at that but no, people are being prepared to travel far and wide to these tours. We don't see the exact breakdown of each date's attendance but SoFi stadium apparently can hold up to 70k maximum for a concert, so 156k split over 3 dates must have meant it had less than that per date, maybe about 52k or so per date? So, that means that it must have made about $20.1 million per date with just 52k people. That is INSANE. I've got a hard time believing that any concert is worth that. It know it costs a lot to put on but that's totally over-charging because you can. 2 hours ago, Red said: It's so weird to me that it grossed more than the Eras Tour cause people just won't shut up about the Eras Tour I'd suggest you look at this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_of_the_Eras_Tour I'm no fan of her but I can't deny the cultural phenomenon this tour is. I've never seen anything like this in my life. Her team are probably waiting to release her first batch of sales data once she's covered the entire Americas, which will be in late November. They might even wait until January to announce it so Beyonce can officially have the biggest selling tour of 2022, but we'll see. The Americas leg alone might actually outsell the entire Renaissance tour but clearly, they didn't want to step on the toes of another big name and let them shine, even if it's just for a few months. 10 minutes ago, Zaskar said: One thing I don't understand: How come Renaissance Tour is so much successful? I mean the album did avg commercially. It wasn't a blockbuster like Lemonade. Unlike Taylor, she isn't riding a populaity high. She's always known for her impeccable vocals and killer choreo. So, her performance isn't something new to people that they are dying to witness. So why this tour is more successful than any other by other musicians? For Eras tour, there's folklore, evermore, Lover, midnights and the re-releases. All that makes sense. The craze for RWT I don't understand. Beyonce's name is so massive, to have her do a tour at any time for any reason is big business. She also sold out her first joint tour with Jay when neither of them had a new album out. Its been a long time since her last album and tour as well so people have been thirsty for her. She's on the level where she can do a tour of all old songs, no new material and people who have already seen her several times would still be falling over themselves to get tickets. I'm sure if Gaga did a greatest hits tour you'd want to go, right? Beyonce's fans are the same. And as these stats show, loads of them must be rich. I mean, California's a very rich state but all the dates had high figures all over, even in places that aren't considered affluent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 10,168 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Red said: I know what happened, sis, but the moment was never Beyoncé's for Taylor to repay or anything, Taylor is the only victim in this incident I'm pretty sure they mean because Beyoncé was kind enough to give Taylor another chance to accept her award when Bey was up accepting an award of her own, sis. It's okay to give credit to her for doing something nice that she didn't have to. This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiddenWeirdo 4,268 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Can we for once, just for once, celebrate the success of this woman without comparing her to Taylor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 10,168 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, HiddenWeirdo said: Can we for once, just for once, celebrate the success of this woman without comparing her to Taylor? Ilysm for saying what needed to be said. This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinnitus15 51,044 Posted October 9, 2023 Author Share Posted October 9, 2023 43 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said: I heard of someone who got Taylor tickets in their home country but is also going to see her in Italy and Germany too. Literally me in Warsaw and London two nights 😭😭😭😭😭 (And I’m from a third country lmfao) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUtterfield 8 41,238 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I know the eras tour will surpass this but I’m happy that RWT was successful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,024 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Zaskar said: One thing I don't understand: How come Renaissance Tour is so much successful? I mean the album did avg commercially. It wasn't a blockbuster like Lemonade. Unlike Taylor, she isn't riding a populaity high. She's always known for her impeccable vocals and killer choreo. So, her performance isn't something new to people that they are dying to witness. So why this tour is more successful than any other by other musicians? For Eras tour, there's folklore, evermore, Lover, midnights and the re-releases. All that makes sense. The craze for RWT I don't understand. Because Beyoncé has build a brand over decades as an incredible, one of a kind, top tier performer with a huge catalogue of hits that span as many decades. She has built a large and loyal fan base on the back of her work who expect an incredible live experience based on their past experiences. I mean, Beyoncé did also have a #1 and a top ten hit supporting this album too. The album went #1, broke streaming records worldwide- it was barely a commercial failure even if it didn’t reach the impossibly high heights of Lemonade. Madonna’s MDNA tour grossed hundreds of millions of dollars for a similar reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 151,357 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I don't really celebrate tour gross I mean, the Weeknd "broke" MJ's record (I guess Beyoncé broke it now) but Abel had a quarter of the attendance while making more money off of it. Average MJ tickets used to be $75 adjusted for inflation. Good luck finding anything under several hundred dollars these days for a-listers 🧡Should go home but the party wants me🧡 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyxGaGa 1,648 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 hours ago, HiddenWeirdo said: Can we for once, just for once, celebrate the success of this woman without comparing her to Taylor? THANK U like fr yall both of them regardless of who is on top are going to b even richer and ever more famous and that’s just being superficial like both of their tours are such great moments. they both served they both gave and we are all v well fed so like why do we keep comparing apples and oranges i think and noah fence because i get its fandom culture we let a lot of things spoils before we rly let ourselves enjoy them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaSkeletonWay 2,080 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Zaskar said: One thing I don't understand: How come Renaissance Tour is so much successful? I mean the album did avg commercially. It wasn't a blockbuster like Lemonade. Unlike Taylor, she isn't riding a populaity high. She's always known for her impeccable vocals and killer choreo. So, her performance isn't something new to people that they are dying to witness. So why this tour is more successful than any other by other musicians? For Eras tour, there's folklore, evermore, Lover, midnights and the re-releases. All that makes sense. The craze for RWT I don't understand. I think Beyoncé's becoming / has already reached a legend status, to be honest. It's a bit what happens with Madonna; she's definitely not done well commercially with her last 3-4 eras but somehow she will always be a high-grossing artist when touring, because she reached that that status a long time ago. I feel the same is happening with Bey, and it could definitely happen to Gaga if she decided to put on a big tour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Rose 562 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Ronnie said: I don't think they have officially released numbers for the Eras Tour yet and I think it's because they want to let Beyonce have her moment due to the Kanye incident back in the day. Would be in bad taste to immediately overshadow Beyonce's numbers. Her PR team is perfection. HOW GENEROUS OF THEM... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaXXXon 1,537 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 5 hours ago, Zaskar said: One thing I don't understand: How come Renaissance Tour is so much successful? I mean the album did avg commercially. It wasn't a blockbuster like Lemonade. Unlike Taylor, she isn't riding a populaity high. She's always known for her impeccable vocals and killer choreo. So, her performance isn't something new to people that they are dying to witness. So why this tour is more successful than any other by other musicians? For Eras tour, there's folklore, evermore, Lover, midnights and the re-releases. All that makes sense. The craze for RWT I don't understand. Well, for one there's an undeniable surge of concert-going now. More people want to experience shows like this so automatically it becomes more lucrative. In other words, if Beyoncé did her Formation tour in today's concert-industry, it would've probably done like $800 million or even $1 billion. Acts like Harry Styles or The Weeknd have outgrossed Michael Jackson, for example. But they aren't bigger than MJ so this just goes to show that neither Beyoncé's current tour or Taylor Swift's record-breaking tour can be compared to tours from the past, a past where concerts cost $75 to attend, so the gross was smaller due to that even though they might've sold more tickets. Then is the factor that more countries are open to stadium shows as well. Bieber, Gaga, Madonna, Justin Timberlake and Celine Dion would've all had significant surges in tour gross had they experienced the same concert boom as current acts have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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