Judas Society 3,584 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 This post will probably get me crucified. I am a long time monster since BTW era. I remember the time during TFM to BTW. Gaga's grip on her audience/fans were tight. It felt more like a community, or a cult for that matter. Everything she does, everything she says, monsters were following. Every product she put out, people bought. Looking at her collab with Cotton On, I feel like nobody really cared? Or I'm just not seeing anyone talk about it. I admit that I'm losing interest in anything non music/movie related. If this was back then, I'd be trying to get a piece from her Cotton On collab. If this was another artist, like maybe Tay or Bey, you'd be seeing the merchandize being sold out. I'm glad that Haus Labs seems to be gaining steam and selling out their new concealer but I would guess that a lot of the sales are from genuine make up users instead of rabid fans because the product was actually of high quality compared to first gen HL. C2C was successful because the music was good. But I think it was also because a large portion of the sales was by fans. We wanted to support her no matter what. Fans would buy it even if they weren't into jazz. But Love For Sale is somewhat tepid. Even fans aren't buying it as much. I feel that by distancing herself with directly communicating with fans, she is beginning to lose grip on her audience and she would be deemed unprofitable for any merchandize non music/movie related. I actually support her for distancing herself from fans due to the toxicity of the fanbase up to a certain level, but I feel sad to see her brand collabs receive no hype whatsoever when her intention is to promote kindness and acceptance. The important message is kinda lost. I don't wanna be negative, but I just feel this way at the moment. Excited for her Rolling Stone collab and Joker 2 though. Not even thinking about LG7 now because experienced monsters know there's no use expecting or predicting when it will be out. Gaga will start the era when she wants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JgHaus78 1,875 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 If she dropped tonight, everyone would instantly listen. Trust the process and enjoy the ride. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimotheeChalamet 4,786 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Fame is incredibly draining. She wants more privacy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas Society 3,584 Posted September 22, 2023 Author Share Posted September 22, 2023 16 minutes ago, JgHaus78 said: If she dropped tonight, everyone would instantly listen. Trust the process and enjoy the ride. Yea, but this post is about things other than music. I trust fans will listen to new music no matter what, at least once. But anything else I feel like fans couldn't care less at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 146,463 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 What is "Cotton On"? But nah, her fans have just mostly grown up and moved on past stan culture. They still buy her music and go to her shows, they just don't obsess like they did when they were kids/teenagers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas Society 3,584 Posted September 22, 2023 Author Share Posted September 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, TimotheeChalamet said: Fame is incredibly draining. She wants more privacy. I agree. That's why I said I actually support her distancing herself due to how her mental health was deteriorating due to the toxic fanbase. I just start to see how the distance is affecting any collab she does that is non music/movie like the current Cotton On collab. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas Society 3,584 Posted September 22, 2023 Author Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 minute ago, PartySick said: What is "Cotton On"? But nah, her fans have just mostly grown up and moved on past stan culture. They still buy her music and go to her shows, they just don't obsess like they did when they were kids/teenagers. This: https://x.com/ladygaga/status/1705251846313345518?s=20 So does that mean she has no more young fans? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 146,463 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Judas Society said: This: https://x.com/ladygaga/status/1705251846313345518?s=20 So does that mean she has no more young fans? Ohh I haven't seen this. She does, just fewer than other pop stars I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gohan 16,154 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, Judas Society said: Yea, but this post is about things other than music. I trust fans will listen to new music no matter what, at least once. But anything else I feel like fans couldn't care less at this point. Then this is definitely the answer you've been looking for right there: fans are mostly in for the music, maybe even for a perfume because it's more popular than the niche that is make up. Make up and beauty products seem like they're this very popular item but its market is mostly women and a smaller portion of men If you want to compare her to Rih for example, the success of Fenty Beauty didn't come exclusively from fans, the GP loves it. And so it Haus Labs, growing year after year. Taylor Swift's been selling and focusing only music since the beginning and I think that's why she's still successful. Because her fans came for the music and are being feed music year after year tryna go ask Alice, tryna catch that rabbit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinnitus15 50,523 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Nothing new. She’s active when she has to promote something (she was active cuz the Vegas leg started and the moment it ended, she dipped). Honestly I don’t mind it anymore. She’s a grown woman. Whatever makes her happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reginald 13,835 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 I see exactly what you're saying, I have discussed this talking point recently on another site. It's like she's trying to court a much older demographic lately; 60s/ 70s. Even with her brand deals: luxury watches, pain pills, fine wines, trips to Vegas, jazz music. Gaga, QUEEN GAGA, you are still in your 30s, you can still be the cutting edge-tastemaker we fell in love with. It's okay to be youthful and fun! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 24,391 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 44 minutes ago, Judas Society said: but I feel sad to see her brand collabs receive no hype whatsoever when her intention is to promote kindness and acceptance. Her intention is to make money lol, let's stop pretending everything she does is pure acts of kindness for a second please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monketsharona 56,907 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 42 minutes ago, JgHaus78 said: If she dropped tonight, everyone would instantly listen. Trust the process and enjoy the ride. Honestly I wouldn't bet on this. Not a lot moved when it was announced a collaboration with The Rolling Stones will be out. While this fanbase is always asking her for rock music since like 2012. Love For Sale and Hold My Hand were kind hurt by an obvious lack of hype in the community let's be truly honest... Not talking about me especially, but I feel like something broke between her and her main audience. I'd say now it's not a very safe bet anymore to bet on a success thanks to her fans tbh. I may be wrong though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern Ecstasy2 2,191 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 I am so proud of her for the healthy boundaries she has learned how to put up and hold for herself over the years. In my opinion it's an indication that she is prioritizing her personal wellness and relationships. I have no issues with it. “Delete this thread that person is not Gaga he is a hot blonde twink” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLuna 12,732 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 She's not 22 anymore. She's changed and so has her fanbase. It's a part of life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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