EBU In Discussion On Jury System For Eurovision 2024 After Controversial 2023 Result

[Juanlittlem 42,001]

41 minutes ago, Bronco said:

Allmost all of these won the fan vote though, so non-weird acts do do well at Eurovision without the juries. Only Arcade, Tattoo & 1944 didn't top the Televote (1944 also didn't top the Jury vote). 

Duncan didnt win juries either, right?

[darkgaga 3,250]

2 hours ago, Juanlittlem said:

Duncan didnt win juries either, right?

I think he came second twice? Or maybe 2nd and 3rd but winner overall

[Juanlittlem 42,001]

1 minute ago, darkgaga said:

I think he came second twice? Or maybe 2nd and 3rd but winner overall

Yeah I think he was 2nd and 3rd but I can't remember what was jury and what was tele.

[JustTea 4,339]

On 6/15/2023 at 3:14 PM, MonSwiftAnton said:

And to have winners the test of time. With the jury mostly is there to ensure the quality of the songs and the performance the winning songs can actually do that.

Otherwise this will become an even more ridiculous competitions where only gimmicks and stupidity will win.

Your argument is so invalid, omg...

Hard Rock Hallelujah (Lordi) won deservedly back then, when there was no jury votes at all, and it's definitely one of the most iconic and timeless ESC winners of all time. Music is a form of art, so the "quality" is only about what one favors really.

The fact that Loreen (with such a basic song and performance) got so much more jury points than anyone else, proves that there is something seriously wrong with the system. Or it was rigged from the beginning...