Reality 72,435 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, BornAsUnic0rn said: The reason itās being brought up is literally because she made 1 post in the last 9 months NOT selling something,Ā which has been criticized and joked about before. But that tastelessĀ ad really unveiled how many felt deep down. The passionate artist is dead and the only thing weāve beenĀ seeing for a while now was and is the Lady Gaga brand. Half of June has past and the two posts she made were HausLabs and this. States literally passed huge amounts of anti Queer legislations. Drag Bans, Donāt Say Gay Bill, Book Bans.. Silence! When Disney starts to host the first official pride/queer event in retaliation, when country musicians literally put drag queens and queer artists in front of their country audience, and the person we thought was the biggest ally of her generationā¦ says nothing.. It paints a picture.Ā Ā She risked going to jail in Russia for queer rights over there. (Letās be real, they would have never touched her at the time, no way.) Today, in her homelandā¦ When rights are literally taken away.. Silence! Itās easier attacking the Democratic President to abolish DADT when he already was under pressure from his own party than to go after the red states TRYING TO ERADICATE US. It simply paints a picture.Ā Ā For my part I realized how she finally turned into what she never wanted to be. A hollywood sellout. An industry puppet. But I can see how her behavior in the last months really hurt people, especially ones that were close to her before.Ā Frankly, I just don't think she wants to engage with social media as much as she used to. It's not like this is new. Gaga's been hands off with social media for a while now.Ā Look, I get it. She is not active on social media whatsoever and when she is, most of the time it's either trying to sell Haus Labs or it's because of some other brand deal. I'm tired of it too; I think everyone is. I don't think the optics are particularly good. Like you said, it's pride month and she's said nothing about LGBTQ+ rights even though so much anti-LGBTQ+ legislation and rhetoric is being passed. I think that's all very fair.Ā Publicly addressing it and tweeting about these types of things could've helped, but aside from public support, what else would have that accomplished? Anyone who knows Gaga knows that she stands with and supports the queer community, so her word doesn't have as much impact as Disney throwing their first official pride or country artists bringing drag queens to their concerts.Ā She'd be preaching to the choir while the other two are much more significant advances in queer acceptance and liberation. Also, let's not forget that Gaga is on an official White House committee now. For all we know, she might be talking about these types of issues behind the scenes with actual politicians and legislature. She also has the BTW Foundation, which she is also constantly working on. Those are also things that have real meaningful impact. So it's not like she's doing absolutely nothing and just sitting around her mansion all day.Ā šš šŖš š¦ šØšš£š š š¤ššššš£, š šš š¦šš šššš šŖš š¦ šššššš§š Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 3,099 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Killa said: i didnt call her right wing. said conservative, mostly in values, conduct etc. I said, people that follow her expect her to condemn the pharmaceutical industry and the american health system. with or without reason that might be there to support, in any sense.Ā Okay I understand.. Im veryĀ conservative, butĀ im against pharmaceutical industry, and the American health system, and I hated the fact that she did that AD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NichuuB 43,788 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 15 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said: Okay I understand.. Im veryĀ conservative, butĀ im against pharmaceutical industry, and the American health system, and I hated the fact that she did that AD. As for me, im very liberal, and YET, i totally support her AD! Lemme gobble it up Ā Property of @Whale Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat 6,162 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 She loves the coin, it started with HausLabs and even before it, people are only now realizing these are all clear cashgrabs that people are stupid enough to buy into.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuffy 1,020 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 5 hours ago, Mother of Puppies said: And this is what divides people in my eyes... because we all have unlearnt to have discussions, different opinions, agreeing to disagree and still talking to each other. don't agree with something another person says or thinks - boom cancelled. And I'm not coming at you -Ā you may have your reasons why u have done so - since I don't know what the differences were and sometimes it is better this way to erase people from your life if those differences are major. but I'm talking in general. I see this with a lot of young people that they cut ties with people or family just because they have different opinions about some things and don't agree with everything their family thinks. Even with minor stuff.. Or people being cancelled online just because they may have talked with a person whose cousin is friends with someone who's questionable. Ā I don't agree with everything my family or some friends think - politically or other things in life - I would have to cut ties with basically everyone in my surroundings based on that because we all have different takes on things. We may agree on this, but hardly disagree on another topic. That's life. 100%, yeah I didnāt read that as you coming at me, I agree with you. Youāre right, we need to separate valid issues from our ability to engage with others and build relationships. Thatās where most people learn to be more tolerant and respectful when they actively see people reaching out to them regardless of our views.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Rises 823 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 9 hours ago, Guillaume Hamon said: When you think about her dropping a super fancy Target deal cause they were funding anti-queer organisms... It's really weird to know she now works with a company funding politicians pushing anti-queer laws. Maybe I'm a delulu stan making excuses for her but seeing her many years of loud activism it makes me think she didn't know about these... Now tbh she 100% should make sure who she talk to before to become their ambassador. It's not like the infos weren't a few clicks away. SHE helped target become inclusive by removing born this way after they wouldnt donate proceeds or something in 2011.Ā they have come along but its progress. spread love ,kindness & compassion š¹š¤!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennywise 35,841 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 What I will never understand is this self-flagellating behavior some of you exhibit like āshe owes us nothing!!!! We cannot ask her for anything at all!!!!!!! Little monsters are the scum of the earth we deserve worse!!!!!!!!!ā like she literally doesnāt owe everything she has to usĀ So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
old sanuk 351 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Gotta love Lady Gagaā¦an artist Ā living her best life, releasing what she chooses, picking her spots. I donāt judge her but merely enjoy her existence, as her art enriches my life, and I hope will continue to do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Lovers 6,545 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 I'm not saying there hasn't been unnecessary hate directed toward her in the last couple days. I am saying though that the fanbase is on the defensive and they're treating valid criticism the same way they're treating hate and it really only makes this more complicated.Ā I've said it before and I will say it again: she doesn't need you to defend her. She is a grown ass woman who has been taking criticism since day one and she often takes it much better than the fans who think they're somehow her bestie. At the end of the day, we are all her fans. We're not her friends. She doesn't need us taking her bullets.Ā She's made some questionable choices, and she's opened herself up to criticism. Let her take it, hope she does better in the future, and we move on. The passionate testimonials help nothing.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourEvilTwin 1,336 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 This has nothing to do with leftists lol. Most of y'all are radlibs at best anyway. Don't taint the leftist name with this nonsense. The reason why this is happening is because Gaga unwittingly cultivated the most parasocial fanbase of all time, full of perpetual victims, who are terminally stuck in 2011. Sad to say that I saw where it was all headed way back when. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guillaume Hamon 6,027 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Future Lovers said: I'm not saying there hasn't been unnecessary hate directed toward her in the last couple days. I am saying though that the fanbase is on the defensive and they're treating valid criticism the same way they're treating hate and it really only makes this more complicated True. Folks mix unfair&illogical bashing points against her with valid ones to not have to address the last ones. Pfizer is shady af and focusing on the pride related complaints is a way to not discuss it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizel 593 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 21 hours ago, G U C C I said: Listen I have no problem with miss maāam getting her coin. By all means make that money! I know it takes quite a bit just to run the business that is Lady Gaga. I also donāt understand how any of this has been conflated with her advocacy for LGBT rights. Ā My only issue is that no celebrity should be paid to pander pills to Americans given the healthcare landscape in this country. Itās beneath her and quite frankly unethical.Ā Now if it was some new life changing medical technology that was going to be available to everyone and accessible via all insurance policies then by all means promote it! But this is a random migraine medicine previously hawked by the Kardasians lol. Ā Itās ridiculous and clearly something that should have been thought out more by herself and her team. The medication isnāt even available through insurance policies and has a price tag of upwards of $1,000.00 for 8 tablets.Ā Is it really $1000 for 8 tablets? š¤Æ never heard of a headache tablet costing $125 per pill ! šÆĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G U C C I 5,394 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Brizel said: Is it really $1000 for 8 tablets? š¤Æ never heard of a headache tablet costing $125 per pill ! šÆĀ https://www.drugs.com/price-guide/nurtec-odt#:~:text=The cost for Nurtec ODT,on the pharmacy you visit. Ā āThe cost for Nurtec ODT oral tablet, disintegrating 75 mg is around $1,011 for a supply of 8 tablets, depending on the pharmacy you visit. Quoted prices are for cash-paying customers and are not valid with insurance plans. This price guide is based on using theĀ Drugs.com discount cardĀ which is accepted at most U.S. pharmacies. Nurtec ODT is available as a brand name drug only, a generic version is not yet available. ViewĀ generic Nurtec ODT availabilityĀ for more details.ā Ā the drug not having a generic is why they are doing deals to promote because there is not a cheaper alternative for cash paying patients or insurance companies to substitute with.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 49,974 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 10 hours ago, YourEvilTwin said: This has nothing to do with leftists lol. Most of y'all are radlibs at best anyway. Don't taint the leftist name with this nonsense. The reason why this is happening is because Gaga unwittingly cultivated the most parasocial fanbase of all time, full of perpetual victims, who are terminally stuck in 2011. Sad to say that I saw where it was all headed way back when. Most people cant tell the difference between radlibs and leftists,Ā I fear. I read OP and was like āSocDems would never give this much of a ****ā The real ones know being upset over this isnāt attacking the route of the issue, so itās not worth anything more than a ālol cringe.ā Itās like OP is claiming lefty values exist and yet using a whole other group of trolls to call some hypocrites.Ā Ā Where are these receipts that these are the same group of people -Ā bc this framing makes no sense to me.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 49,974 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 I know Iām not helping myself, but my god I cant wait for this to all blow over - literally everyone on all sides of this are varying degrees of insufferable rnĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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