The Hate Against Lady Gaga and how the Left Keeps Shooting Itself in the Foot

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That's because Elon Musk can say the most foul things about the right and the left and the right will still idolize him. It's much better to look at things objectively, as in not everything that Gaga or AOC does is helpful or right. Gaga has decided to be dead silent this year about LGBTQ rights, especially trans rights. That's her choice, it doesn't invalidate her previous activism.

She can choose her battles, she can choose to be silent. That doesn't excuse her of criticism. And at the end of the day, people can choose who they want to support, and it's celebrities who are publicly and vocally supportive. 

I am positive that she donates to lots of orgs, and even has one herself. But if you have that much of impact in the whole world, especially America, staying silent in times like these is awful. Her team can even make the post if she doesn't have the time.  I will agree though that at times people attack the wrong people and for the wrong reasons.

 

And the fourth paragraph is bullshit. Some people buy SHEIN because they can't afford anything better. It's not comparable to a celebrity getting $1m for promoting something or sticking their name to it. There is no ethical consumption, but there are varying degrees to it.

[Killa 15,810]

Well she shouldve seen it coming. Shes coming off more and more as a conversative, does ads for high end luxury products, does private shows for rich people, shows herself mostly to Sell products. Now a pfizer deal? Thats not what her fans are searching in her.

people expect a progressist thats bold in her speeches and actions , from lady Gaga.  Probably many haters are joining the bangwagon. She has many dedicated haters lool 

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20 minutes ago, Reality said:

This whole situation has become much bigger than it should've. All this for a pharmaceutical ad? The melodrama of it all is exhausting. Like, how did this go from Gaga advertising a migraine drug to questioning her 15 years of advocacy and activism? 

THIS 

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11 minutes ago, Reality said:

This is one of the most level-headed takes I've seen. I also don't agree with her promoting Big Pharma stuff—I do frankly think it's beneath her, like you said—but I feel like the reaction she's getting is disproportional to what she actually did. Like, the fact that the conversation has now shifted to her entire career and her advocacy is crazy to me. Yeah, most of us can agree that the ad is not in good taste, but why are we bringing in her activism into this? 

Because some of the biggest fan accounts on twitter went straight for “AN AD DURING PRIDE MONTH” and it just gave all her doubters/haters fuel. This is the fire her fans ignited and are now scurrying to put out

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8 minutes ago, Killa said:

Well she shouldve seen it coming. Shes coming off more and more as a conversative, does ads for high end luxury products, does private shows for rich people, shows herself mostly to Sell products. Now a pfizer deal? Thats not what her fans are searching in her.

people expect a progressist thats bold in her speeches and actions , from lady Gaga.  Probably many haters are joining the bangwagon. She has many dedicated haters lool 

How does any of that make her a conservative? lol

Gaga never claimed to be a socialist leftist, she has always been a basic Democrat and capitalist, with basic takes on LGBTQ+ rights.

[Schwerk 7,002]

I don't think it's a trade off. Her endorsing a medication and sharing it on social media does not erase all she has done for the LBTQ+ community to me. If she chooses not to advocate sincerely via social media anymore, I can respect this because she is supporting in other ways and has in the past. My feelings on all this:

- the timing is off posting this during pride month but not posting about pride at all (so far).

- the ad was wrapped in an advocating message about (mental) health, which conflicts with her not speaking out about the threat the trans community faces in her country. So it seems like she does still use her platform to advocate, but only if she gets paid for it.

- why advertise medication in the first place? Where I from it's illegal to do so. If the medication works thats great for her but it doesn't mean it will for others and she is not a doctor in a position to advise people. She could also express a more general statement that she found ease for her migranes with help of medication, but not name the pill and just encourage people in general to get the care they need.

- Gaga has plenty of ways to generate income. Sure this is the most low effort of all, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.

- it's not Gaga thats motivated by money, it's her team. They probably don't make as much from her movie career compared to her endorsement deals.

- Gaga can be a bit out of touch with reality. She was an upper east side kid and has been wealthy for a long time. She's still sincere but I dont think she fully encompasses the US health crisis and the fact this medication is expensive AF and many people that would benefit from it will never get it.

- I feel this is the type of ad I would see from celebrities that are not making money anymore of that are money hungry like the Kardashians, not someone like Gaga.

Look at this video and listen to Kim's view on money. I don't get her at all. I would never even considered taking the 1 million from the company, only if I didn't have any money. And we all know Kim (and Gaga) have plenty of money. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Act ii is coming for real 

[Ziggy 10,762]

Gay men stop policing trans people speaking out challenge.

frankly, it isn’t cis gay men’s business but there’s a very loud number of gay men making it their business. Just let trans people voice their displeasure from their experience if that’s their’s.

sure, we love Gaga, she’s been monumental in our lives and for queer rights *but* our community isn’t a monolith. It’s made up of unique experiences. We need to respect each others’ experiences and if some are taking umbrage with her not speaking up more fervently about something that directly affects them, better just to listen and let them be then try to fly in and tell them they’re wrong, the problem, etc.

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42 minutes ago, Guillaume Hamon said:

When you think about her dropping a super fancy Target deal cause they were funding anti-queer organisms... It's really weird to know she now works with a company funding politicians pushing anti-queer laws.

Maybe I'm a delulu stan making excuses for her but seeing her many years of loud activism it makes me think she didn't know about these...

Now tbh she 100% should make sure who she talk to before to become their ambassador. It's not like the infos weren't a few clicks away.

Also as a French in the us, it’s complicated as every company and people are so politicized you can easily support companies supporting republicans not intentionally.

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I guess I'm confused as to what people think her "speaking out" will do? This has always confused me. So she posts on social media about pride - sure, there's an immediate morale boost to her fans who feel supported. Fine. But other than that, what tangible effect does 'speaking out' do? Nothing. An instagram post or a tweet does not change anything tangible. 

Gaga has always put her money where her mouth is. Literally. 

Real change happens on the political level, and Gaga knows that and has always used her influence to impact the political sphere as much as she could. She directly campaigned for Biden in his battle against Trump. She urged her fans to vote during every election. She spoke in rallies against Don't Ask, Don't Tell. She's used interviews and other high profile events like the VMAs to make statements about the queer community and how they needed support. She has donated money to organizations that help queer youth, she's volunteered herself, she started her own Foundation. 

I need everyone to understand this - Lady Gaga has literally campaigned for The President of the United States. Think about that, let it sink it. She sang at his inauguration. She reached some of the highest levels of influence that's possible for someone in her position, as a civilian and not a politician. She has gone so far above and beyond what literally any of us could hope to do for queer activisim. 

And people are mad at her because she won't post a freaking instagram post saying? Please, get a grip. Get many grips, in fact. 

On a personal level, I think it's super cringe to accept a check from big pharma when the medical industry is a huge contributor to class separation and poverty. But I think we can criticize that without talking anything about her activism, because she has given enough. She could never say another word about the queer community and her impact will still be felt. 

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4 minutes ago, Ziggy said:

Gay men stop policing trans people speaking out challenge.

frankly, it isn’t cis gay men’s business but there’s a very loud number of gay men making it their business. Just let trans people voice their displeasure from their experience if that’s their’s.

sure, we love Gaga, she’s been monumental in our lives and for queer rights *but* our community isn’t a monolith. It’s made up of unique experiences. We need to respect each others’ experiences and if some are taking umbrage with her not speaking up more fervently about something that directly affects them, better just to listen and let them be then try to fly in and tell them they’re wrong, the problem, etc.

Now we are making it about trans people? lol

[Ziggy 10,762]

2 minutes ago, Schwerk said:

I don't think it's a trade off. Her endorsing a medication and sharing it on social media does not erase all she has done for the LBTQ+ community to me. If she chooses not to advocate sincerely via social media anymore, I can respect this because she is supporting in other ways and has in the past. My feelings on all this:

- the timing is off posting this during pride month but not posting about pride at all (so far).

- the ad was wrapped in an advocating message about (mental) health, which conflicts with her not speaking out about the threat the trans community faces in her country. So it seems like she does still use her platform to advocate, but only if she gets paid for it.

- why advertise medication in the first place? Where I from it's illegal to do so. If the medication works thats great for her but it doesn't mean it will for others and she is not a doctor in a position to advise people. She could also express a more general statement that she found ease for her migranes with help of medication, but not name the pill and just encourage people in general to get the care they need.

- Gaga has plenty of ways to generate income. Sure this is the most low effort of all, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.

- it's not Gaga thats motivated by money, it's her team. They probably don't make as much from her movie career compared to her endorsement deals.

- Gaga can be a bit out of touch with reality. She was an upper east side kid and has been wealthy for a long time. She's still sincere but I dont think she fully encompasses the US health crisis and the fact this medication is expensive AF and many people that would benefit from it will never get it.

- I feel this is the type of ad I would see from celebrities that are not making money anymore of that are money hungry like the Kardashians, not someone like Gaga.

Look at this video and listen to Kim's view on money. I don't get her at all. I would never even considered taking the 1 million from the company, only if I didn't have any money. And we all know Kim (and Gaga) have plenty of money. 

 

 

 

 

 

Very this. Tbh I think it’s weird that her press release featured mentioning about her migraines as a kid. This was very clearly a management thing, but it’s her name attached to it. She approved it. If this didn’t come during pride month, if this didn’t include pushing meds, it would be different. It’s just a little messy. She’s not Satan, but this was just in bad taste and people being affronted makes sense

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1 minute ago, faysalaaa1 said:

Now you are making it about trans people? lol

I- girl the comments are literally people saying she hasn’t spoken up about trans rights rn but peddling pharma lmao that’s literally the convo. it’s already about that so plz leave the attitude

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1 minute ago, Ziggy said:

I- girl the comments are literally people saying she hasn’t spoken up about trans rights rn but peddling pharma lmao that’s literally the convo. it’s already about that so plz leave the attitude

No its about not mentioning pride during pride month

But regardless, we can all criticize the pushback against Gaga regardless if the person criticizing her is trans or not

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34 minutes ago, Reality said:

This whole situation has become much bigger than it should've. All this for a pharmaceutical ad? The melodrama of it all is exhausting. Like, how did this go from Gaga advertising a migraine drug to questioning her 15 years of advocacy and activism? 

I would like to re-emphasize the 15 years part there.

After 15 years of advocacy, she can sell donuts during June if she wants to.