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SlaeUrAnus

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socotra

"Known as the singer's most experimental album to date" –  is it? AP is my fave album from hers, but idk why it has this reputation for being avant garde in any way. It's pretty standard EDM music. I think BTW is a far more experimental than anything on ARTPOP

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ProfessionalClown

I’m sorry but this is literally something from her mother: 

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ModernEcstasy

Called it in the original thread! :ohwell:  I’d love to get Act II. (But it’s probably not gonna happen)

 My eye automatically goes to the ARTPOP tattoo every time it’s on display! 
 

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Bradley

Reminds me of when she said the pyrotechnics at the TCB were symbolic for burning her porch down.

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Roboboy
18 minutes ago, sexy said:

"Known as the singer's most experimental album to date" –  is it? AP is my fave album from hers, but idk why it has this reputation for being avant garde in any way. It's pretty standard EDM music. I think BTW is a far more experimental than anything on ARTPOP

it was experimental for POP in 2013, and also it was also experimental in its lyrics, messaging, campaign, visuals etc. I don't know why people say this all the time as if the entire identity of an album and its purpose boils down entirely to just its instrumentals. Which were still very strange at points...Swine? like hello

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Gagaplayer315

So she’s saying her ARTPOP could mean anything :billie:

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socotra
3 minutes ago, LG6IsHere said:

it was experimental for POP in 2013, and also it was also experimental in its lyrics, messaging, campaign, visuals etc. I don't know why people say this all the time as if the entire identity of an album and its purpose boils down entirely to just its instrumentals. Which were still very strange at points...Swine? like hello

I agree its visuals were experimental. The messaging/campaign were "experimental" because she cloaked the whole thing in nebulous, vague expressions that have now become memes. "Reverse-Warholian expedition" is a nice, catchy line, but does it describe the album, at all? "Altering the human experience with social media" and "An age where art drives pop" don't mean anything substantial, it just makes her sound self-important and pretentious. She says it herself, "ARTPOP could mean anything" – that is to say, her messaging of "invert Warhol's pop-art movement" is ultimately super disjointed from the themes that actually pervade the album – sex, fame, power.

At the end of the day, virtually all of ARTPOP follows a verse-chorus-secondverse-chorus-bridge-chorus structure atop beats that aren't anything that can exactly be described as cutting edge. That isn't a knock on the quality. Like I said, AP is my favorite album from her. But to act like the music itself is something boundary-pushing just doesn't hold water, not even in comparison to other albums in her own discography, let alone in comparison to truly experimental non-mainstream music.

to your point about it being experimental for pop... sure, I guess? If we narrowly compare it to everything being released in 2013, and we define experimentalism as anything that is unlike other contemporary releases, then sure, it was experimental, if only by virtue of going against the grain of what was trendy at the time. Certainly wasn't like Royals, Blurred Lines, Diamonds, etc. But it wasn't exactly presenting anything new. It would've fit right in if it were released even a couple years earlier with the early 2010s EDM craze.

i digress, i don't wanna get too off-topic. i love ARTPOP to death, but i think it's her most controversial album mostly because of her own messaging on it. I think things would have gone a lot more simply if she'd called it "The Aura" or "Venus" and said, "This is an album about sex, power, fame, addiction, love. It's sort of a continuation of themes I handled in TF/TFM, but now written after I've actually experienced true, rare fame."

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