noa234 4,203 Posted Wednesday at 01:34 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:34 PM But is it a sin though , Ms thing pope ? 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dennis 4,475 Posted Wednesday at 01:43 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:43 PM (edited) edit: nvm, I missed the "sin" part which kinda ruins this statement Edited Wednesday at 01:44 PM by Dennis 3 Link to post Share on other sites
PartySick 119,125 Posted Wednesday at 01:59 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:59 PM Him, basically: "hate the sin, love the sinner" Watered down hate is still hate 15 Link to post Share on other sites
alsemanche 69,156 Posted Wednesday at 02:01 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:01 PM (edited) This is not the serve he thinks it is it's still discriminatory and harmful to queer people. Not that we should expect the church to be accepting of us anyway. Edited Wednesday at 02:02 PM by alsemanche Soft, soothing, and succulent // FOSSORA IS HERE 11 Link to post Share on other sites
Kimmo 65,523 Posted Wednesday at 02:04 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:04 PM God be like: Well you’re gay which means you won’t go to jail but also… You won’t go to heaven either…yay!!!! Hottie Detector 1 20 Link to post Share on other sites
Borisapillar 5,220 Posted Wednesday at 02:11 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:11 PM I don’t care anymore 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites
PunkTheFunk 118,157 Posted Wednesday at 02:29 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:29 PM Love that for me 11 Link to post Share on other sites
RudraCNG 12,438 Posted Wednesday at 02:32 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:32 PM (edited) Thanks to statements like "it's a sin" from religious authorities, homosexuality is a crime in a lot of countries, so if you're not gonna say anything useful shut the f up. Edited Wednesday at 02:34 PM by RudraCNG 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites
RenegAde 14,241 Posted Wednesday at 02:40 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:40 PM (edited) As a person who grew up Catholic, no matter how i have tried to rationalise and theorise , the scriptures are pretty univocal, homosexuality is considered a sin....sadly The reason why we have to make a distinction between " sin " and "crime" is because a lot of self rightouse Christians see the two as synonymous which is actually dangerous to the lgbt community because this misconception is then translated into the laws which ultimately determines our safety and human rights. If people made this distinction between "sin" and "crime" the homophobic laws would not exist in the first place. Which is what is actually important to me, don't no body care what the church thinks about my personal life Edited Wednesday at 02:47 PM by RenegAde 5 Link to post Share on other sites
HermioneT 1,632 Posted Wednesday at 02:40 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:40 PM 25 minutes ago, alsemanche said: This is not the serve he thinks it is it's still discriminatory and harmful to queer people. Not that we should expect the church to be accepting of us anyway. I struggle with this dual way of "accepting" queerness in churches at lot. My church (protestant) does offer same sex weddings HOWEVER it is not the same ceremony as it would be for heterosexuals couples. For example the pastor isn't allowed to let the wedding bells ring, the wording of the ceremony and its title are different and, most discriminating, the pastor and community chair members have to vote with 2/3 in favour it beforehand (which has -as far as I know - always been in favour). Obviously as a queer couple who isn't too deeply invested in this particular church, you wouldn't notice all of these differences, but it's actually still discrimination. (My bf is a vicar and literally told his supervisor that he is definitely going to perform the "normal wedding" ceremony on queer couples because of this and found out that most pastors do this out of spite ) There are churches with full acceptance and no "it's a sin, but we / God loves you regardless" -views, often Lutheran confessions, I think. She / hers Link to post Share on other sites
monstrosity 3,024 Posted Wednesday at 02:41 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:41 PM 36 minutes ago, Kimmo said: God be like: Well you’re gay which means you won’t go to jail but also… You won’t go to heaven either…yay!!!! Are they the god you’re referring to? Link to post Share on other sites
Lukas96 525 Posted Wednesday at 03:00 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:00 PM (edited) 21 minutes ago, RenegAde said: As a person who grew up Catholic, no matter how i have tried to rationalise and theorise , the scriptures are pretty univocal, homosexuality is considered a sin....sadly Until you realize that it all stems from an ill intentioned translation of the original scriptures, but homophobes within the church will never correct that. Edited Wednesday at 03:01 PM by Lukas96 2 Link to post Share on other sites
killme89 243 Posted Wednesday at 03:06 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:06 PM This might have meant something in like 1992 but now it means nothing…do better Link to post Share on other sites
ControversiaGa 2,613 Posted Wednesday at 03:07 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:07 PM There shouldn’t be laws based on mythology Formerly RihBeyGa 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
RenegAde 14,241 Posted Wednesday at 03:12 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:12 PM (edited) 15 minutes ago, Lukas96 said: Until you realize that it all stems from an ill intentioned translation of the original scriptures, but homophobes within the church will never correct that. Show me the original scriptures? The conversation is moot anyways cuz whether one exists or not, Christianity isn't changing its biblical doctrines anytime soon and we don't need the validation of a religion to lead full lives Edited Wednesday at 03:19 PM by RenegAde Link to post Share on other sites
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