Space Cowboy 11,670 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, Cody James said: So all the people that felt victimized by her are wrong and faking it in your opinion? I really don't give a damn frankly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monstermilo 3,926 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 taylors fans are in an eternal state of victimhood like taylor ellen is known for asking about people's dating lives and stop acting like taylor isnt ok with that when her only material is about men shes dated stop with the fake outrage and the faux feminism BS when theres actual suffering at the hands of women that are actually vulnerable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monstermilo 3,926 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 "i dont want to talk to ellen about ppl i may or may not have dated" continues to write 300 songs about her exes and doesnt give two shits when her fans drag her exes on social media over **** that happened years ago give me a ****ing break Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody James 1,472 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 25 minutes ago, Space Cowboy said: I really don't give a damn frankly Good to know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 8,391 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 35 minutes ago, xmoonagexdaydreamx said: but like Ellen is a comedian, she makes jokes, she was joking with her for dating so many boys. sometimes comediennes are held to a different standard, ie Kathy Griffin. ITS JOKES PEOPLE. Why's everyone triggered by something that happened 10 years ago?? This. It seems that humor is disallowed now. Yes this was a bit uncomfortable and maybe Ellen should've realized it sooner and stopped. Nonetheless, the intention was comedy. And comedy relies on the fact that sometimes you may embarass your guest a little. If people didn't have thick skin, they just shouldn't be guests on comedy shows. This isn't exclusive to Taylor. Gaga was made fun of at the Oscars and BAFTA last year for House of Gucci's accent, while she was in attendance. Who cares. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railing 2,405 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 35 minutes ago, Monstermilo said: "i dont want to talk to ellen about ppl i may or may not have dated" continues to write 300 songs about her exes and doesnt give two shits when her fans drag her exes on social media over **** that happened years ago give me a ****ing break This is exactly the sort of thing that she and her fans talk about. Not all of her music is about breakups, and this is an extremely weird slutshamey narrative that has gone on since she was practically a new artist. She is a hopeless romantic, so a lot of her songs are about love and heartbreak. But she also has songs about fame, betrayal (outside the context of romance), insecurity, mourning, stories that she made up in her head, her ideal romance rather than one that actually happened, etc. Gaga also has many songs about her known relationships with Luc Carl, Taylor Kinney, etc.. The only thing separating Taylor Swift from Gaga in that regard is that many of Taylor's boyfriends have been famous people. That doesn't negate her right to make music inspired by her love life, and it also doesn't negate her right to be upset when people reduce her entire catalog/talent to those men that she dated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatography 10,057 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 47 minutes ago, xmoonagexdaydreamx said: but like Ellen is a comedian, she makes jokes, she was joking with her for dating so many boys. sometimes comediennes are held to a different standard, ie Kathy Griffin. ITS JOKES PEOPLE. Why's everyone triggered by something that happened 10 years ago?? it’s not funny when the person being made fun of gets clearly more and more uncomfortable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controversiaga 9,581 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, xmoonagexdaydreamx said: but like Ellen is a comedian, she makes jokes, she was joking with her for dating so many boys. sometimes comediennes are held to a different standard, ie Kathy Griffin. ITS JOKES PEOPLE. Why's everyone triggered by something that happened 10 years ago?? 1 hour ago, Dennis said: This. It seems that humor is disallowed now. Yes this was a bit uncomfortable and maybe Ellen should've realized it sooner and stopped. Nonetheless, the intention was comedy. And comedy relies on the fact that sometimes you may embarass your guest a little. If people didn't have thick skin, they just shouldn't be guests on comedy shows. This isn't exclusive to Taylor. Gaga was made fun of at the Oscars and BAFTA last year for House of Gucci's accent, while she was in attendance. Who cares. There’s a difference between being a comedian and being a bully. A GOOD comedian is able to make EVERYONE in the room laugh. A bully makes their target feel uncomfortable and Ellen is doing exactly that to Taylor in this video. It is so clear to see too. That’s not comedy imo, watching a room full of people laugh at one person and that person literally saying they want Ellen to stop and that person making it very clear this isn’t funny or cool. how did that just fly over y’all’s heads Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScreamQueen007 415 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Mocchi said: I still don't know how Ellen became so big in the US. She seems so annoying and disrespectful Because she gave away free stuff and was entertaining the first few seasons with exclusive interviews and performances on the show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScreamQueen007 415 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, xmoonagexdaydreamx said: but like Ellen is a comedian, she makes jokes, she was joking with her for dating so many boys. sometimes comediennes are held to a different standard, ie Kathy Griffin. ITS JOKES PEOPLE. Why's everyone triggered by something that happened 10 years ago?? All Taylor’s songs were always and are still about the guys she’s dated, Ellen asked her about it, so what’s the big deal? If someone is constantly writing about all the boyfriends they’ve had, should they not be asked about that “inspiration”? Or is Taylor the only one who can exploit previous relationships for a hit song? Taylor seems to always be in a constant state of victimhood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Lovers 6,578 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Monstermilo said: "i dont want to talk to ellen about ppl i may or may not have dated" continues to write 300 songs about her exes and doesnt give two shits when her fans drag her exes on social media over **** that happened years ago give me a ****ing break People love to act like she only writes about people she's dated when that isn't even close to true. Hell, just because a song is about a breakup or relationship it doesn't mean it's her own. Her two most acclaimed albums aren't even about her in the first place. It's an extremely weird bit of sexism that is widely accepted among the general public and especially in the LGBT community to condemn women for dating around and essentially slutshame them without saying the word slut. That's what this interview is, that's what the intention is. It is perfectly acceptable for someone to be comfortable writing or singing about matters in their lives and not be comfortable talking about those same matters face to face, especially if it's being turned into a joke. I'm a filmmaker. I just premiered a film today about a friend of mine who took their own lives. I made a film about it, but I don't have an interest in sitting down face to face with someone to talk about what happened. Art is a medium to express your thoughts and feelings, it is NOT an invitation for someone to trap you in a conversation about the art's origin. 2 hours ago, Monstermilo said: taylors fans are in an eternal state of victimhood like taylor ellen is known for asking about people's dating lives and stop acting like taylor isnt ok with that when her only material is about men shes dated stop with the fake outrage and the faux feminism BS when theres actual suffering at the hands of women that are actually vulnerable 2 hours ago, Dennis said: This. It seems that humor is disallowed now. Yes this was a bit uncomfortable and maybe Ellen should've realized it sooner and stopped. Nonetheless, the intention was comedy. And comedy relies on the fact that sometimes you may embarass your guest a little. If people didn't have thick skin, they just shouldn't be guests on comedy shows. This isn't exclusive to Taylor. Gaga was made fun of at the Oscars and BAFTA last year for House of Gucci's accent, while she was in attendance. Who cares. I'm really tired of the "THEY'RE KILLING COMEDY" crowd. Comedy is not this blanket excuse to make someone feel like a target. It's one of thing if the person is inviting a comedian to make them the subject of their jokes (like when celebrities agree to be roasted), it's another if a comedian has decided to pick on them even when they're being told to stop. If a comedian starts making jokes about somebody and those jokes make the subject visibly uncomfortable--or especially if they ask the comedian to stop--then if the comedian continues they're not a comedian. They're a bully. Comedy is not about tearing someone down so other people laugh, and anyone who finds that funny is just as much a bully as the comedian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controversiaga 9,581 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, ScreamQueen007 said: All Taylor’s songs were always and are still about the guys she’s dated, Ellen asked her about it, so what’s the big deal? If someone is constantly writing about all the boyfriends they’ve had, should they not be asked about that “inspiration”? Or is Taylor the only one who can exploit previous relationships for a hit song? Taylor seems to always be in a constant state of victimhood. In that clip, when did Ellen mention Taylor’s music? Not once. Ellen was not asking about what inspires Taylor. She was implying Taylor dates everybody . Did you not even watch the clip???? It’s very obvious what Ellen is trying to do. The conversation of music or inspiration didn’t pop up ONCE. I’m sorry but what you said is a reach imo Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Boy 3,174 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 8 hours ago, bionic said: ellen appeals to the WASP housewife type and they love her because she asks the kinda rude questions it would be 'unbecoming' of them to ask. the hate for her is OTT and is driven by homophobia. ellen is bad but you'd think she's the devil the way people go for her Agreed, she’s annoying, but people “disgusted and horrified” need to get a grip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakariah 11,556 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 i remember feeling very weirded out and uncomfortable when i first watched that horrible interview Spoiler im not gonna mince words, ellen is a cúnt for doing this to taylor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisguyN 616 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Dennis said: This. It seems that humor is disallowed now. Yes this was a bit uncomfortable and maybe Ellen should've realized it sooner and stopped. Nonetheless, the intention was comedy. And comedy relies on the fact that sometimes you may embarass your guest a little. If people didn't have thick skin, they just shouldn't be guests on comedy shows. This isn't exclusive to Taylor. Gaga was made fun of at the Oscars and BAFTA last year for House of Gucci's accent, while she was in attendance. Who cares. Making a slideshow of somebody’s personal life, slutshaming and bullying her to talk about her personal relationships in a room full of people laughing at her face while she is crying and begging to stop is not comedy. If people found it funny back then, clearly something was wrong with the society’s perception. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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