Canada's Population Explodes By 865,000 Last Year, The Most In History

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https://dailyhive.com/canada/canada-population-growth-2022

 

Canada's population has grown by 776,000 in the first 9 months of this year January to October, the most of any entire year in the Countries history, and 865,000 rolling back a full year (last October to this October)

 

Increased spending in immigration services that helped clear backlogues in applications, increased overall immigration targets, and rise in refugees from Ukraine heavily influenced the boom

 

The increase in population represents a growth rate of over 2% in a single year span. Rapid population growth may further strain a housing shortage that has gradually worsened over the last 20 years

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Interestingly Canada's most populated Province (Ontario) had the first negative population growth in a long time in Q3 of 2022 as did British Columbia the 3rd most populated Province

 

Guess a lot of ppl are running away from unaffordable housing. 

 

I guess "Alberta is calling" ads is actually convincing people. What you guys think? @LaLa @OBEY @JustinTrudeau @monstertoronto @GagaSine

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1 minute ago, Economy said:

Interestingly Canada's most populated Province (Ontario) had the first negative population growth in a long time in Q3 of 2022 as did British Columbia the 3rd most populated Province

 

Guess a lot of ppl are running away from unaffordable housing. 

 

I guess "Alberta is calling" ads is actually convincing people. What you guys think? @LaLa @OBEY @JustinTrudeau @monstertoronto @GagaSine

It all kind of balances out since last year (2021), BC and Ontario saw record number of increases in population.

Currently, like with a lot of countries, population growth is due to high number of Ukrainian immigrants fleeing the war and seeing refuge in Canada. Afghan refugees and Punjabi people are also seeking Canadian citizenship. 
 

And when it comes to Alberta, I’m quite sure within the next several months, population will decrease due to the new premier’s attack on federal government. 

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6 minutes ago, ScreamQueen007 said:

It all kind of balances out since last year (2021), BC and Ontario saw record number of increases in population.

Currently, like with a lot of countries, population growth is due to high number of Ukrainian immigrants fleeing the war and seeing refuge in Canada. Afghan refugees and Punjabi people are also seeking Canadian citizenship. 
 

And when it comes to Alberta, I’m quite sure within the next several months, population will decrease due to the new premier’s attack on federal government. 

Ukraine is definitely a big chunk but it's definitely not the biggest factor on its own

 

There is still some natural population growth growth on top of the 400,000 annual immigration target and covid backlogue compensation probably added to that even more (immigration came below targets in 2020 by nearly half and delays lasted into part of 2021)...

 

There is now a catch-up that probably made us in turn go above targets for 2022 that made up for falling below targets during covid

 

I don't know the exact number of Ukrainian refugees but I don't think it's enough on its own to account for the unusual surge

 

Edit: about Alberta I don't think the majority of ppl move because of who is in power. They say they will but I think that's more ab easy way to vocalize frustration, most ppl don't seem to actually follow thru those words in the end

 

Alberta's economy did boom from oil recovery and housing affordability did hit historic lows in BC and Ontario and that probably drove the surge

 

I'm sure as Alberta's housing gets hotter from this surge and their boom slows down the trends will indeed go back to normal but I don't personally think it will be because of the premier

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1 hour ago, Economy said:

Interestingly Canada's most populated Province (Ontario) had the first negative population growth in a long time in Q3 of 2022 as did British Columbia the 3rd most populated Province

 

Guess a lot of ppl are running away from unaffordable housing. 

 

I guess "Alberta is calling" ads is actually convincing people. What you guys think? @LaLa @OBEY @JustinTrudeau @monstertoronto @GagaSine

I’ve seen the Alberta ads all over the TTC.  I’m low key shocked that people are actually listening to them.  I’ve read articles about people who moved there and then felt lonely, isolated and bored, so if people are moving out there I bet many will return. Also, I have a gay friend whose parents live out there and he stayed with them for a while recently as he has no job right now and he said he hated it there. I think it would be boring but especially awful for us gays. 

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There’s a major paradox in Canada:

the population is aging massively, with a lot of new retired people every month. This population doesn’t “contribute” (no more income taxes) but still take up housing space. So younger generations have to work a lot more to compensate, (healthcare and education mostly) but there’s a job shortage. Companies are relying on keeping old people longer if they can, and on immigration.

In 15-20 years when the baby-boomers will start dying at a faster rate, we’ll see a return to equilibrium but who knows how messed up the economy and housing situations will be. And here in Quebec there’s the issue of French language protection (and teaching to new immigrants). It’s insanely complex.

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Can I please come over from America? One more shouldn’t make a big difference 

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2% increase in a single year (mostly from migration) is crazy. 

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1 hour ago, thierryrreiht said:

There’s a major paradox in Canada:

the population is aging massively, with a lot of new retired people every month. This population doesn’t “contribute” (no more income taxes) but still take up housing space. So younger generations have to work a lot more to compensate, (healthcare and education mostly) but there’s a job shortage. Companies are relying on keeping old people longer if they can, and on immigration.

In 15-20 years when the baby-boomers will start dying at a faster rate, we’ll see a return to equilibrium but who knows how messed up the economy and housing situations will be. And here in Quebec there’s the issue of French language protection (and teaching to new immigrants). It’s insanely complex.

I think u meant labor shortage? But yeah it's a huge strain having a disproportionately older population but definitely the housing crisis adds to cost of living crisis

 

PS: As a side note, although there's ageing population factors at play... With women entering the workforce in much larger numbers than 50 years ago more than offsetting ageing population...

 

To me the labor shortage is further evidence that what they been saying for over 100 years that automation would lead to mass unemployment is a load of baloney. The system always finds a way to use up more labor in more ways since more production just means more consumption to eat up the increased productivity

 

That's good and bad at the same time. It means higher productivity doesn't ever really result in mass unemployment but the economic system always eating up any rising income you get also means it's impossible for the average person to ever get off a tredmill. No matter what life will always be tough for a typical person (even if we fixed inequality issues which would help but not entirely)

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1 hour ago, monstertoronto said:

I’ve seen the Alberta ads all over the TTC.  I’m low key shocked that people are actually listening to them.  I’ve read articles about people who moved there and then felt lonely, isolated and bored, so if people are moving out there I bet many will return. Also, I have a gay friend whose parents live out there and he stayed with them for a while recently as he has no job right now and he said he hated it there. I think it would be boring but especially awful for us gays. 

Purely from an economic perspective tho, their average wages are higher while cost of living is lower especially in housing

 

Overall it's arguably the best place in Canada to live purely from an economic perspective. Since I'm a boring person that just loves to chill, I probably wouldn't mind it tbh

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1 hour ago, Economy said:

Purely from an economic perspective tho, their average wages are higher while cost of living is lower especially in housing

 

Overall it's arguably the best place in Canada to live purely from an economic perspective. Since I'm a boring person that just loves to chill, I probably wouldn't mind it tbh

From my own conversations with people, the wages were not higher.  Most of the jobs available were more labourer jobs with low salaries and the housing costs weren’t that much cheaper if you wanted to be in the city. 

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2 hours ago, monstertoronto said:

From my own conversations with people, the wages were not higher.  Most of the jobs available were more labourer jobs with low salaries and the housing costs weren’t that much cheaper if you wanted to be in the city. 

The average home price in Calgary is $490,000 as of November...

 

That won't even get u a condo in Toronto...

 

About the wages... Yeah seems the average is thrown off by the high paying jobs there. If you look at the median income is actually just slightly below Ontario's.

 

Still tho, the cost of housing appears to be a significant difference. What part of Alberta exactly were these ppl in that you speak of and when?

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My friend had moved in with his parents in Edmonton, and then I have a cousin who lived in a small town somewhere, and then the only other people I chatted to were people I met at a Christmas party who had moved to Toronto after disliking Calgary. 

I also read this article: https://torontolife.com/city/i-moved-to-alberta-and-hated-everything-about-it-after-three-months-i-came-back-to-toronto/

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2 hours ago, monstertoronto said:

My friend had moved in with his parents in Edmonton, and then I have a cousin who lived in a small town somewhere, and then the only other people I chatted to were people I met at a Christmas party who had moved to Toronto after disliking Calgary. 

I also read this article: https://torontolife.com/city/i-moved-to-alberta-and-hated-everything-about-it-after-three-months-i-came-back-to-toronto/

Not trying to invalidate individual experiences but as we know anecdotal experiences don't always tell the general story

 

The stats do show the price of housing is significantly cheaper in Alberta. So trying to suggest otherwise with this woman's story and friends uve known basically suggests ur trying to say the statistics are just wrong

 

About it being more boring I can believe it tho