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Brad Pitt’s “Babylon” flops on the box office


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Truth is that half the country didn’t go to a theater bc of snow and cold and those who did saw avatar. Babylon doesn’t really appeal to the Christmas movie goer crowd all that much

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On 12/24/2022 at 10:21 AM, Oriane said:

Are you all kidding? This is a Damien Chazelle movie, I really loved Whiplash, La La Land was fine for me but a lot of people loved it too, and given the subject of the movie I expect a lot from it.

Damien Chazelle doesn’t really pull big numbers. Didn’t his Apollo movie flop, too? And La La Land kinda stalled a bit also (plus being about hollywood feels samey to this to a casual watcher). Couple that with telling no one anything about this movie and releasing it right around avatar and it’s obvious who’s going to flop. 

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3 minutes ago, Ziggy said:

Truth is that half the country didn’t go to a theater bc of snow and cold and those who did saw avatar. Babylon doesn’t really appeal to the Christmas movie goer crowd all that much

The Whitney biopic made double than this despite having a much lower budget though. Not to mention Puss in Boots also did well. 

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1 minute ago, Ziggy said:

Damien Chazelle doesn’t really pull big numbers. Didn’t his Apollo movie flop, too? And La La Land kinda stalled a bit also (plus being about hollywood feels samey to this to a casual watcher). Couple that with telling no one anything about this movie and releasing it right around avatar and it’s obvious who’s going to flop. 

La La land made $447M while First Man made $105M. Babylon will be lucky to even cross $30M honestly.

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3 minutes ago, Meat said:

The Whitney biopic made double than this despite having a much lower budget though. Not to mention Puss in Boots also did well. 

True! But think of how those movies also cater to particular demos. Avatar is the event movie, Whitney biopic is the “my mom loves Whitney so we’re seeing that” film, puss is the kids movie. Babylon basically falls through the cracks bc the other movies pull demographics more specifically. Babylon’s demographic is not clearly defined by its trailers so whoever they’re trying to reach either saw something else or stayed home

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3 minutes ago, Meat said:

La La land made $447M while First Man made $105M. Babylon will be lucky to even cross $30M honestly.

Mmm see I think this is the issue. The studio assumed that Chazelle was a bankable director who had fans that would follow movie to movie like Chris Nolan but that’s just not true, sadly. He hasn’t built the kind of cache that dark knight then inception gives a gal 

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3 minutes ago, Ziggy said:

True! But think of how those movies also cater to particular demos. Avatar is the event movie, Whitney biopic is the “my mom loves Whitney so we’re seeing that” film, puss is the kids movie. Babylon basically falls through the cracks bc the other movies pull demographics more specifically. Babylon’s demographic is not clearly defined by its trailers so whoever they’re trying to reach either saw something else or stayed home

Babylon has a very strong following on film twitter. Despite the movie getting bad reviews, people are defending it and those tweets are getting a lot of likes too. I guess this just proves that film twitter is an echo chamber and doesn’t reflect the tastes of the actual audience.

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1 hour ago, Ziggy said:

Damien Chazelle doesn’t really pull big numbers. Didn’t his Apollo movie flop, too? And La La Land kinda stalled a bit also (plus being about hollywood feels samey to this to a casual watcher). Couple that with telling no one anything about this movie and releasing it right around avatar and it’s obvious who’s going to flop. 

Oh yes but people in the thread seem to criticize the quality of the movie itself, that's what I was referring to! Ibreally don't care about numbers, as long as the movies are still being acclaimed and earn enough for the filmmakers to continue doing what they want, I'm fine.

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8 hours ago, Meat said:

Babylon has a very strong following on film twitter. Despite the movie getting bad reviews, people are defending it and those tweets are getting a lot of likes too. I guess this just proves that film twitter is an echo chamber and doesn’t reflect the tastes of the actual audience.

Yeah that’s more what I meant :) like I knew filmheads were excited but this needed to pull a wolf of Wall Street and appease them *and then* transfer over into the mainstream a bit

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6 hours ago, Oriane said:

Oh yes but people in the thread seem to criticize the quality of the movie itself, that's what I was referring to! Ibreally don't care about numbers, as long as the movies are still being acclaimed and earn enough for the filmmakers to continue doing what they want, I'm fine.

Ooooh I gotcha! I feel you. I wouldn’t care about numbers except for it being used to justify new and more original releases or not. I’ve seen plenty of shoestring art house films to know a box office return is not an indictment or testimony of quality lmao

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