salty like sodium 1,083 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 48 minutes ago, Kimmo said: Omg then don’t buy it and let her flop but STFU already They acts like she was laughing because she’s the only one to press whatever amount of vinyls she wants. The reason why Taylor is able able to have this many is because companies know Taylor will sale… I’m sorry but if you’re an indie band, companies are not going to risk pressing Vinyls that are just going to stay on the shelf… For example, they’re not going too book a Stadium Tour for Demi Lovato and a theater stadium for Taylor Swift… This comment is just so uninformed ... Vinyl factories are overbooked due to Taylor. That has nothing to do with the labels' decision to press vinyls or not. Clearly whether the labels want to press the vinyls or not isn't even a consideration since the factories are all booked up – but whether they press vinyl for TS or others, the factory doesn't care, they get paid whether the record stays on a shelf or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Record pressing plants can't keep up with the market demand, and there is a vinyl shortage. So when Taylor, Adele, or Gaga release a dozen different vinyl editions to boost their sales, it's to the detriment of smaller artists who are struggling to get priority pressing. So if they want to vent their frustrations, I understand why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimmo 79,641 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 29 minutes ago, salty like sodium said: This comment is just so uninformed ... Vinyl factories are overbooked due to Taylor. That has nothing to do with the labels' decision to press vinyls or not. Clearly whether the labels want to press the vinyls or not isn't even a consideration since the factories are all booked up – but whether they press vinyl for TS or others, the factory doesn't care, they get paid whether the record stays on a shelf or not. Actually I’m not uninformed… you are. Money talks and indie bands don’t have it. Taylor does. Welcome to the world what’s not clicking? Hottie Detector Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lona Delery 7,194 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 literally everyone is struggling with vinyl records rn tho Lana had to push Chemtrails back 6 months cuz the records werent ready. It's just an unfortunate fact vinyl production needs a lead time of more or less 1 whole year rn Sometimes it feels like I've got a war in my mind, I wanna get off but I keep riding the ride Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessyTop 14,387 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 The problem is the new Billboard rules. The vinyl has to ship the day of release. Before that all the pre orders counted. So I blame Billboard, not the artists. Kylies new album is done. She sent it to production now so the vinyl is ready by April 2023. That’s the new reality. https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryanrolli/2020/07/14/billboard-merch-ticket-bundle-rules-bts-map-of-the-soul-7/amp/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 hour ago, SKANK said: Record pressing plants can't keep up with the market demand, and there is a vinyl shortage. So when Taylor, Adele, or Gaga release a dozen different vinyl editions to boost their sales, it's to the detriment of smaller artists who are struggling to get priority pressing. So if they want to vent their frustrations, I understand why. I do understand this but when a major artist is releasing and wants to release multiple colours etc. then there must be communication before so they can be sent out close to the release date. I remember my Chromatica vinyl came like a week after release so they must’ve been prepped to press before the release date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Tbh they should be thankful she is bringing back physical copies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIM820 1,770 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 26 minutes ago, MessyTop said: The problem is the new Billboard rules. The vinyl has to ship the day of release. Before that all the pre orders counted. So I blame Billboard, not the artists. Kylies new album is done. She sent it to production now so the vinyl is ready by April 2023. That’s the new reality. https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryanrolli/2020/07/14/billboard-merch-ticket-bundle-rules-bts-map-of-the-soul-7/amp/ Yea I was going to say I 100% blame billboard with the needing the vinyl on release date (not the variants.) I should be able to listen to an album or single and buy it and have it count, even if its a preorder. I understood the merch debate rule change, but the physical media was ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoresup 1,902 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Are the 3AM tracks on physical format yet or just streaming only? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 46 minutes ago, Benji said: I do understand this but when a major artist is releasing and wants to release multiple colours etc. then there must be communication before so they can be sent out close to the release date. I remember my Chromatica vinyl came like a week after release so they must’ve been prepped to press before the release date. Yeah, they are prepped for release long before the release date. "Vinyl pressing is facing a 9-12 month delay, and even major labels are pushing back production of their own lesser selling artists in order to make sure that massive artists like Adele can release vinyl on the same day music is released digitally. As reported by Variety, for major label and large indie label artists, not having vinyl ready by digital release can result in a 30-40% loss of vinyl sales. While physical sales only accounts for about 10% of income derived from sound recordings overall, that figure is much larger for mid size and small independent bands. further, the delay affects smaller bands and labels more than major labels. Generally speaking, larger productions are given pressing preference, which then means that larger labels can delay the production of small run records. Even major labels are prioritizing their own releases to make sure the biggest releases make the release deadline." https://www.punknews.org/article/75919/vinyl-pressing-facing-9-12-month-delay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 74,599 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Ngl the capitalistic takes on this forum are starting to piss me off chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl 3,253 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Ok but she still did a ton of streams so why are people acting like a clock is the reason she's smashing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teletubby 138,760 Posted October 22, 2022 Author Share Posted October 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, HIM820 said: Yea I was going to say I 100% blame billboard with the needing the vinyl on release date (not the variants.) I should be able to listen to an album or single and buy it and have it count, even if its a preorder. I understood the merch debate rule change, but the physical media was ridiculous. I think they changed it after Ariana and Justin Bieber's "Stuck With U" got #1 on the Hot 100 thanks to cassettes, CDs and vinyl but they didn't have physical copies and their fans waited over 10+ months to get ordered copies. some fans have canceled their orders after they didn't get anything for weeks. Why would Billboard count something that does not exist or may never exist? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUtterfield 8 41,038 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Why are vinyls so popular anyways takes up too much space imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TortureMeOnReplay 5,893 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Kimmo said: Actually I’m not uninformed… you are. Money talks and indie bands don’t have it. Taylor does. Welcome to the world what’s not clicking? I think it has nothing to do with being uninformed and more to do with values. Taylor acts as if she wants fair treatment for artists but then fast passes vinyl production because she has to press every photo from her key art onto her singular album. You can't speak up about how artists are treated by the industry and then turn your back on artists because it gets you a bag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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