Guillaume Hamon 6,237 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, monketsharona said: Well no trying to defend him at all but ar least he had the honesty to say it tbh. Well partial honesty since he makes it about friendship as well when she's trending again. The only moments he's 100% real is when she's in a down career moment and he's frank about seing her as just an investment. 4 minutes ago, monketsharona said: She's making 100M dollars contacts lately, you think she has no people in her team sticking for money purpose ? Of course they do but they're classy enough to not describe her as a stock, even if indeed many are surely this way. Tbh nothing's worst than going from cold to super friendly according to the person sales. Idk be consistent. 😂 14 minutes ago, monketsharona said: Akon left but we know during ARTPOP time there were toxic people still around her. DJ Snake said the experience working with her was totally ****ed up mainly because of people around her trying to keep a hand on her and fighting over the credits in the studio. And there's still people asking those people back on next album, asking for Act 2 and on the other hand trashing Akon for that statement. The irony Yeah she should cut all the phonies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 107,446 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, monketsharona said: Just to be clear Akon is a businessman and Lady Gaga is a businesswoman. The decision was about business and stopping investing money. Not dropping her as she was still in contract with Interscope or dropping her management has he was only an investor (and co songwriter / producer in early days) I'm sure she also parted way with some people for money purpose without having any kind of bad feelings. It's actually very rare for any artist to stick with same people for business for decades and decades. I'm sure Gaga will have other team changes / new collaborators in business in the future. I doubt she doesn't have resentment over these people. Otherwise Gaga will not ever complain about anyone is trying to cash her out. When she realizes during her healing process from hip surgery that nobody was checking up on her. They were using her for money. Or how she complain about selling perfume during the ARTPOP era which most likely why she fired Troy in the first place. The word by words quote from that Yale Uni discussion: "I don't like having to sell perfumes. Wasting my time spending days just shaking people's hands and smiling, taking selfies - it feels shallow to my existence. I have a lot more to offer than my image. I don't like being used to make people money. I feel sad when I'm overworked and I become a moneymaking machine and my passion and creativity takes a backseat." (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ 𝔦 𝔞𝔪 𝔰𝔱𝔯𝔬𝔫𝔤 𝔡𝔢𝔰𝔭𝔦𝔱𝔢 𝔪𝔶 𝔰𝔠𝔞𝔯𝔰 (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 112,208 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I wish she would re-release Just Dance without Colbie O'Flopnnis and Akon's background vocals and replace the old one with it in the TF/M Come on and wrap that blade of grass around my hairy ass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumzy3000 7,118 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Honestly, if you invested in someone’s business and then saw them losing, it could be potential risk, your going to cash out as well. I don’t think a single person whether they are business minded or not would stay with a business partner who is a liability. People are saying he’s throwing shade but he’s being dead honest about what happened without sugar coating anything. I think some of you are being very dramatic but what’s new on GGD? That being said, I think her breakup up with her manager Troy screwed her the most - not Akon... trolly troll troll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOT 2,920 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Kinda get the impression he's just saying the first thing that comes into his head. It was a long time ago, but he's not even thinking about his answers. Maybe he's looking on TF and TFM as one album, which is why he's saying that BR was on the first album and why he says she never got to four albums (he stopped counting after ARTPOP). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monketsharona 75,297 Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 2 hours ago, palma said: Came here to say this, thank you Trash Not him pretending he and redone "led her in the direction that could blow her" when Gaga wrote 100+ songs for The Fame and came with a vision no mainstream label would push her towards in 2007-8. No one takes credit for her hard work - Akon invested and he made a profit, but he cannot claim credit. To be honest RedOne fought hard for her in 2008 for her to get some radio plays when no one wanted to play her songs. And he had like zero money invested in her, just the songs they made together Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMonster 14,664 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 This right here is the reality of the music business. It's an industry with assets and investors. Just like an investor would hold stocks and shares in a company, music executives hold them in artists. And just like an investor will sell their stocks and shares in a company when that company is at its perceived peak... so will a music executive. It's kind of fascinating really but also a hard game to be in for artists. Because artists aren't inherently entrepreneurs or CEOs... they are emotional creatives. So it's clear why there's so much conflict in this business between artists and their 'bosses'. They're on very different pages but each need each other for different reasons. When you think of the industry with this lens, it's clear why the likes of Taylor Swift go to great lengths to reclaim control of their careers and to make as much money as possible... because it frees them from this system. They suddenly become their own system and make money for themselves on their own terms. It makes sense. And you could say that's what Gaga is doing with Haus Labs too, only with a make-up brand instead of music. subtext / fantasy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 46,187 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 4 hours ago, palma said: Came here to say this, thank you Trash Not him pretending he and redone "led her in the direction that could blow her" when Gaga wrote 100+ songs for The Fame and came with a vision no mainstream label would push her towards in 2007-8. No one takes credit for her hard work - Akon invested and he made a profit, but he cannot claim credit. omg ikr? i hate it when stans are like "she needs to work with redone again, he's the reason she became famous" like NO her talent, dedication and hard work is why she's famous!! he was just the first main producer she released with mother, what must i do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr S 8,671 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 He got it out "before the dip" lol. He says it like it's a good thing. If he was a smart businessman, he would ride the ups and down. If he stayed, he'd be making even more money now. Good thing Gaga doesn't have to pay him now, because she's making more money now than she was back then. There are so many stocks I sold that I wish I kept and ignored the short term turbulence..I'd be rich today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson123 37,502 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 - "Bad Romance was on her second album?" - "No, it was on her first". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guillaume Hamon 6,237 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Mr S said: He got it out "before the dip" lol. He says it like it's a good thing. If he was a smart businessman, he would ride the ups and down. If he stayed, he'd be making even more money now. Good thing Gaga doesn't have to pay him now, because she's making more money now than she was back then. There are so many stocks I sold that I wish I kept and ignored the short term turbulence..I'd be rich today Right? He was there when her shows grossed 1,5 million a show and he's gone now she makes 2,5× that. He's bragging for gaining a lot back then but he also lost big time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 48,804 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 11 hours ago, chromaticpop said: So he gonna just act liek he didn’t “cash out”??? And what if he did???? Yeah he made a fortune off her... He was also critical in helping Gaga make it and rake in a tone of cash herself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 48,804 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 10 hours ago, ChicaSkas said: Excuse me sir Bad Romance was on the 2nd album, the Fame Monster EP.... I guess from a label perspective since it was a kind of re-release Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo 4,269 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 **** this guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrissyBot 2,252 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Economy said: And what if he did???? Yeah he made a fortune off her... He was also critical in helping Gaga make it and rake in a tone of cash herself Um that’s literally what I’m saying. The way he nonchalantly said “I cashed out before it was too late” was beyond disrespectful. Making it seem like she was gonna become a hasbeen but now he’s praisinh her acting like he didn’t basically call her a flop in 2014 so what now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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