Future Lovers 7,537 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, TEANUS said: So many things wrong w this post idk where to begin so I guess I’ll go chronologically. You don’t think AIDS, violence within, etc. weren’t partially facilitated by a society that forced the LGBTQ+ into the shadows with little to no help from society back then? You don’t think Dahmer’s grandma was embarrassed to call the police when she caught him drugging that man because he brought home a man, let alone a black man? You didn’t hear the part about how the officers were so detached from the reality of the case that all they could focus on was cleansing themselves to avoid “catching AIDS”? You don’t think the media frenzy itself initially wasn’t partially facilitated with the publics horror at the “taboo” lives of the gay people? And that the nature of this case didn’t fuel homophobic stereotypical fires that were already raging to begin with? Y’all seem like oppositionist people rather than people who genuinely care about how gay people are represented or how we can raise awareness for our grievances Also, regarding the second to last paragraph, with that thinking I presume you may say Gaga released BTW in 2011 to capitalize on the self-empowerment movement if you weren’t a Gaga fan. Rather than thinking there just may underlying themes and influences at play other than the obvious or first assumed Yes this is all true of the real life story but it is very not present in the show. That's the point. The ideas are hinted at, maybe given surface level lip service, but there is absolutely no actual exploration of those themes or ideas. It, like the exploration of how race influenced the case, is not a focus of the show nor is it the show's primary purpose. I agree wholeheartedly that the Dahmer story is a very interesting vessel to explore the ideas of LGBT life, homophobia, and societal pushback of that era. It's a shame that isn't what's happening in the show. It's a brain dead half hearted engagement with the material made by people clearly uninterested in doing anything more than regurgitating the Dahmer wikipedia article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatic 1,001 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 this thread is a disaster LMAO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 56,860 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 so i finally started the show and it's alright... it feels like a branch off the AHS + ACS tree it really bothers me they cast a heart throb as the lead and included a lot of "sexy" jeff scenes, very uncomfortable to watch and the show isn't good enough to ignore how messy that is one of the main things i kept thinking was "how much of this is ryan's horror fantasy stretching the facts and how much of this is actually real? did this man really caress a hunky mannequin? and why is every male character under the age of 40 totally shredded?" mother, what must i do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers 30,860 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, NATAH said: and why is every male character under the age of 40 totally shredded?" this was what life was like before body shaming was frowned upon. I'm kind of kidding, but gay men at the time were conditioned to do ANYTHING to try to seem masculine and also to be "above reproach". Also, you had to spend all your time cruising which meant being at the gym instead of seething on GGD at Starbucks. Remember to like and subscribe, and click on the bell icon to get the latest updates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHE 563 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Gotta love new woke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Gloria 3,464 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 On 10/5/2022 at 4:12 PM, Mr Mendes said: Yes this is all true of the real life story but it is very not present in the show. That's the point. The ideas are hinted at, maybe given surface level lip service, but there is absolutely no actual exploration of those themes or ideas. It, like the exploration of how race influenced the case, is not a focus of the show nor is it the show's primary purpose. I agree wholeheartedly that the Dahmer story is a very interesting vessel to explore the ideas of LGBT life, homophobia, and societal pushback of that era. It's a shame that isn't what's happening in the show. It's a brain dead half hearted engagement with the material made by people clearly uninterested in doing anything more than regurgitating the Dahmer wikipedia article. So if you agree with most of the points made, why are you being contrarian, just for the sake of it? Just so you can take the high ground and say that you're being morally superior on a Lady Gaga forum, lol. It is representation, just not nice, comfortable representation, so you and people like you don't want to accept it as being LGBT content. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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