Protests against mobilization in Dagestan (Russia)

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Good for Dagestanis. Russia has been using ethnic and religious minorities to do the bulk of its dirty work and to appease the majority ethnic Slavic peoples in the big cities. The Russians in big cities NEED to see these types of videos and they need to help the ethnic minorities who are REFUSING to join this mess. These people are poor and desperate yet still refusing to join the criminal war. I'm proud of them. 

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59 minutes ago, dit said:

Good for Dagestanis. Russia has been using ethnic and religious minorities to do the bulk of its dirty work and to appease the majority ethnic Slavic peoples in the big cities. The Russians in big cities NEED to see these types of videos and they need to help the ethnic minorities who are REFUSING to join this mess. These people are poor and desperate yet still refusing to join the criminal war. I'm proud of them. 

So far there were rumors of Russia trying to coerce locals from Crimea and Donbas to join the military effort, but generally the ones fighting in Russia went there without any coercitive measures. The army was seen as a good source of income in many of the poorer areas so the share of military in these regions was higher to begin with. The ethnic minorities regions of Russia are also not uniformly anti-Putin, in fact there have been many Tuvans involved in the war because Tuvans are generally pro-Putin (Sergei Shoigu is Tuvan and this likely plays a huge part).

Only after the partial mobilization comes into effect, people will be literally forced to fight.

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Reminds me a bit of the protests in Karakalpak'stan, Uzbekistan end of June. There wasn't much reporting on these, but it escalated really really quickly with blood in the streets of the regional capital (Nukus) and over a hundred dying. Karakalpaks are an ethnic minority in Uzbekistan that have partial sovereignty within Uzbekistan, until their current president decided to propose amendments to the constitution to revoke Karakalpakstan's autonomous status and the constitutional right of Karakalpakstan to secede by referendum. Even though most Karakalpaks didn't doubt they were better off in Uzbekistan, relations turned sour really quickly after the constitutional amendments were announced. The protests were slashed down so violently, that they left wounds in Karakalpakstan that aren't going to heal anytime soon.

Though I respect that every ethnic and cultural group in Central Asia, Northern Asia and the Caucasus, even the different ethnic groups in Dagestan itself, is very different and cannot easily be compared, it does remind me how easily these type of protests can escalate in the age of Instagram and Telegram. And thus Putin will have to be very careful how he handles these protests. Reacting in a violent way without giving any compromise in return (like: less men from Dagestan being brought to war) could end very badly. Unlike Karakalpakstan, which was more about cultural dignity, the people protesting in Dagestan are protesting against the literal death of their loved ones. That's why I think it will be much more difficult to slash down these protests.

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32 minutes ago, Luc said:

Reminds me a bit of the protests in Karakalpak'stan, Uzbekistan end of June. There wasn't much reporting on these, but it escalated really really quickly with blood in the streets of the regional capital (Nukus) and over a hundred dying. Karakalpaks are an ethnic minority in Uzbekistan that have partial sovereignty within Uzbekistan, until their current president decided to propose amendments to the constitution to revoke Karakalpakstan's autonomous status and the constitutional right of Karakalpakstan to secede by referendum. Even though most Karakalpaks didn't doubt they were better off in Uzbekistan, relations turned sour really quickly after the constitutional amendments were announced. The protests were slashed down so violently, that they left wounds in Karakalpakstan that aren't going to heal anytime soon.

Though I respect that every ethnic and cultural group in Central Asia, Northern Asia and the Caucasus, even the different ethnic groups in Dagestan itself, is very different and cannot easily be compared, it does remind me how easily these type of protests can escalate in the age of Instagram and Telegram. And thus Putin will have to be very careful how he handles these protests. Reacting in a violent way without giving any compromise in return (like: less men from Dagestan being brought to war) could end very badly. Unlike Karakalpakstan, which was more about cultural dignity, the people protesting in Dagestan are protesting against the literal death of their loved ones. That's why I think it will be much more difficult to slash down these protests.

I agrew with this! Dagestan is also a region well-know for a certain separatist tendency. There were certain incidents related to the war in Checknya which eventually made Russia step in and subdue Checknya in fear of Russia loosing its grip on the north Caucasus. At the same time this is also a region very strategically important to Russia as it acts as a bridge between the Volga region and what used to the Ottoman Empire, a highway for Turkish invasions in the past. I would pay close attention to what happens in north Caucasus because this is a region that think is more vulnerable to separatism (compared to the Siberia).

I haven't checked but 100% I think they are already saying this is a CIA backed attempt of a revolution to destroy Russia or something.

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