holy scheisse 20,327 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cruelty said: We've made it to the top 10! Who are you supporting? And who do you think is next to go? Rooting for: teen idle and radioactiveĀ Ā rooting against: primadonna (but Iām sure sheāll be number one ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruelty 5,887 Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 10 ELECTRA HEART ā average 7.85 Highest: 11 x 1 (@DrKindnessKunt1999); 10 x 6 (@CatelynnMarieĀ @GaGaLBĀ @VTVĀ @PoltergeistĀ @ARTPOPeĀ @Lady Gaga 2009) Lowest: 1 (Admin) Electra Heartās title track has quite the history ā recorded for Electra Heart (based on a preexisting instrumental by Santa Barbara DJ Betatraxx), finally released in 2013 alongside the music video that killed Electra off for good, and remixed for its official single release in 2014. Basically, itās āSkrillex and the Diamondsā, yet it works much better than youād expect. The energy āElectra Heartā brings is massive. Itās almost manic, Marinaās vocals screwed up and spat out onto a battlefield of spiky sawtooths. It feels like a fight to the death. And Margarita Loucaās visual (linked below) enhances the effect massively, as Electraās life unspools before our eyes. The Homewrecker wrecking herself. The Primadonna devoid of control (ācan we go back?ā Is change possible? Can I undo what I have done?) The Teen Idle finding herself in a place of utter regret. And the Suburban Housewife, breaking her chains in an utter rage, awake to the blindness imposed upon her. Every facet of Electra Heart is screaming out about the pain that love brings, and the restrictions it imposes upon us. The hook āLIGHTS! THEY! BLIND ME!ā is just IMMENSE, as Electra realises the scale of loveās delusions. But itās a hook thatās wasted on a slightly meandering, oddly structured song. Iām thinking of the unfathomable section where the song packs its bags, we have a little organ sermon interlude, and then weāre back into it. Conceptually I understand it, but talk about killing the momentum ā and Iād love a few more lyrics, just to make this feel like more of a song and less of an interlude. Itās a decent send off for Electra, but Iām not too sure it works as a song on its own terms. Comments @Galvon The mv version is better @Poltergeist I was soooo excited since Iāve heard the first live snippets, the production of this song is amazing (but the spotify version has too many repeated moments, feels a bit empty sometimes, I prefer the video version). Definitely my top 3! @holy scheisse Sheās fun and cute @LovingIsACherryPie I donāt like the production that much, but I think itās great as the closing track of the album! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poltergeist 2,835 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cruelty said: 10 ELECTRA HEART ā average 7.85 Highest: 11 x 1 (@DrKindnessKunt1999); 10 x 6 (@CatelynnMarieĀ @GaGaLBĀ @VTVĀ @PoltergeistĀ @ARTPOPeĀ @Lady Gaga 2009) Lowest: 1 (Admin) Electra Heartās title track has quite the history ā recorded for Electra Heart (based on a preexisting instrumental by Santa Barbara DJ Betatraxx), finally released in 2013 alongside the music video that killed Electra off for good, and remixed for its official single release in 2014. Basically, itās āSkrillex and the Diamondsā, yet it works much better than youād expect. The energy āElectra Heartā brings is massive. Itās almost manic, Marinaās vocals screwed up and spat out onto a battlefield of spiky sawtooths. It feels like a fight to the death. And Margarita Loucaās visual (linked below) enhances the effect massively, as Electraās life unspools before our eyes. The Homewrecker wrecking herself. The Primadonna devoid of control (ācan we go back?ā Is change possible? Can I undo what I have done?) The Teen Idle finding herself in a place of utter regret. And the Suburban Housewife, breaking her chains in an utter rage, awake to the blindness imposed upon her. Every facet of Electra Heart is screaming out about the pain that love brings, and the restrictions it imposes upon us. The hook āLIGHTS! THEY! BLIND ME!ā is just IMMENSE, as Electra realises the scale of loveās delusions. But itās a hook thatās wasted on a slightly meandering, oddly structured song. Iām thinking of the unfathomable section where the song packs its bags, we have a little organ sermon interlude, and then weāre back into it. Conceptually I understand it, but talk about killing the momentum ā and Iād love a few more lyrics, just to make this feel like more of a song and less of an interlude. Itās a decent send off for Electra, but Iām not too sure it works as a song on its own terms. Comments @Galvon The mv version is better @Poltergeist I was soooo excited since Iāve heard the first live snippets, the production of this song is amazing (but the spotify version has too many repeated moments, feels a bit empty sometimes, I prefer the video version). Definitely my top 3! @holy scheisse Sheās fun and cute @LovingIsACherryPie I donāt like the production that much, but I think itās great as the closing track of the album! At least 7 songs too soonĀ I've been getting messages from my deep waters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Rumour has it Adminās 1 key on his keyboard has been worn down after he sent his rates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruelty 5,887 Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 āI donāt really connect to happy songs, or like, major chords, very much. There have to be like doomsday chords. So I kind of wanted to create like a humorous but dark album about love.ā 9 LIVING DEAD ā average 7.85 Highest: 11 x 3 (@CatelynnMarieĀ @itsmebuddyĀ @ARTPOPe); 10 x 4 (@Grigio GuyĀ @DrKindnessKunt1999Ā @Lady Gaga 2009Ā @LovingIsACherryPie) Lowest: 2 (Admin) The first song written for Electra Heartāand to be honest, it shows. The lyric is transparently about Marinaās depression during the first year of making the record, and feels a little one-note compared to the more sophisticated lyricism elsewhere on the album, but Greg Kurstinās production slaps, especially the utterly exhilarating cascade of drums into the final chorus. Having been performed live since 2010 (!), I also get the sense Marina was fed up of the song by the time the album was released in the USA, so she swapped it out for āSex Yeahā. āLiving Deadā hinges on metaphors of dissociation. Marina rues how āI havenāt lived life, I havenāt lived love, just a birdās eye view from the sky aboveā, presaging āTeen Idleāās similar complaint about not feeling involved in the world. But at the same time, she confesses āIām living dead, only alive when I pretend that I have diedā, so itās acknowledging that cutting yourself off from the world can be quite a freeing experience, stepping outside of the constraints that life puts upon us. It also provides safety from having your heart broken againāI adore the couplet āGot bubble wrap around my heart, waiting for my life to startā, because the heart is wrapped up and kept safe, but also you have to pop it before you can use it; pain is a precondition to love. Electraās problem, then, is that sheās spending time āthink[ing] of all the men [she] couldāve kissedā. Stripped of her earlier confidence, sheās left waiting for someone else to start her life for her. Why didnāt you just kiss them?! Listening to āLiving Deadā for this writeup, I was reminded of my favourite Buffy quote: āThe hardest thing in the world is to live in it. Be brave. Liveā. It can be so difficult to make sense of the world when youāre stuck in the middle of it, but āLiving Deadā is ultimately an unsustainable solution to Electraās problems of love and identity. Ā Comments @CatelynnMarieĀ My fave and her best song in her discography. I have never related to a song as much as LD @itsmebuddy Shouldāve been a single and on the US version! My favourite song from the record @Poltergeist Again a simple, yet memorable chorus, a classical Electra Heart experience @holy scheisseĀ Repetitive tbh @LovingIsACherryPie I certainly didnāt expect such a FLAWLESS production in this track. Damn! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruelty 5,887 Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 āI think the main theme [of Electra Heart] is love, and I suppose the side of love which is really about rejection, and about talking about things you donāt really like to admit in real lifeā¦ I suppose Iāve written about it in a very particular kind of way, splitting the album into two moods, one which is very hesitant about being seen as a victim. You kind of get this impression of someone whoās quite tough. And then the other half of the albumās quite raw and explicit in its honesty.ā INTERVIEWER: Would you say youāre a heartbreaker? MARINA: You know what? ā¦ I was. Okay, so, this whole Electra Heart thingā¦ 8 HOW TO BE A HEARTBREAKER ā average 8.00 Highest: 10 x 8 (@whoresupĀ @itsmebuddyĀ @GaGaLBĀ @juicyjuicyĀ @RAMRODĀ @ZedĀ @TorsofaceĀ @Lady Gaga 2009) Lowest: 1 (@ARTPOPe, Admin) In which Marina writes Dua Lipaās āNew Rulesā, five years early. Recorded a little too late to feature on Electra Heart, āHow to Be a Heartbreakerā was tacked onto the album later in 2012 and released as its final single. Backed by a serviceable guitar-based pop production, āHeartbreakerā is the Electra Heart album in microcosmāthe thrilling rush of falling in love, intermixed with the agonising fear of impending heartbreak; at once brash and inhibited, bluster and bluntness. The song didnāt trouble the charts much in 2012, but has slow-burned its way to legend status and is now certified Platinum in the US and Silver in the UK. The songs of Electra Heart can teach us a lot about identity, heartbreak, image, romance and power. What this song teaches usā¦ is that thereās nothing wrong with a basic bop! Yes, the production is so 2012 it hurts, but Iāve seen Marina on three separate tours and each time itās gone OFF, so I suppose a banger never truly ages. The songās middle 8 makes a bid at profundity by dissolving the āheartbreakerā faƧade and revealing what lies underneath: a girl so scared of love that she thinks you have to break a heart or someone will break yours. That might be true, but nobodyās coming to a song called āHow to Be a Heartbreakerā looking for an intellectual exegesis of the dynamics of romantic relationships. Nope. Simply put, itās just a great bop. The songās music video should also be mentioned, because itās an absolute scream. Marina said at the time: āI had 100 per cent creative control over this video. I was like OK, letās get six Calvin Klein models and put them in the shower and Iāll be standing in the middle in PVCā. Are we sure she isnāt a gay man? The Speedo-tastic visual is linked below: Ā Comments @CatelynnMarieĀ Great song, but entirely overrated @Poltergeist Iām really glad it brought her more reception. Even though it was released later it feels like itās always been there since the beginning @holy scheisse Fun. But another Katy perry reject sounding song Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huttont 4,679 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Power and Control or The State of Dreaming next.Ā Ā Radioactive soon too bc the fan base doesnāt like this banger for some reason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poltergeist 2,835 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 I'm really curious what was Admin's best note, and for which songĀ I've been getting messages from my deep waters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huttont 4,679 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, Cruelty said: 8 HOW TO BE A HEARTBREAKER ā average 8.00 Highest: 10 x 8 (@whoresupĀ @itsmebuddyĀ @GaGaLBĀ @juicyjuicyĀ @RAMRODĀ @ZedĀ @TorsofaceĀ @Lady Gaga 2009) Lowest: 1 (@ARTPOPe, Admin) In which Marina writes Dua Lipaās āNew Rulesā, five years early. Recorded a little too late to feature on Electra Heart, āHow to Be a Heartbreakerā was tacked onto the album later in 2012 and released as its final single. Backed by a serviceable guitar-based pop production, āHeartbreakerā is the Electra Heart album in microcosmāthe thrilling rush of falling in love, intermixed with the agonising fear of impending heartbreak; at once brash and inhibited, bluster and bluntness. The song didnāt trouble the charts much in 2012, but has slow-burned its way to legend status and is now certified Platinum in the US and Silver in the UK. The songs of Electra Heart can teach us a lot about identity, heartbreak, image, romance and power. What this song teaches usā¦ is that thereās nothing wrong with a basic bop! Yes, the production is so 2012 it hurts, but Iāve seen Marina on three separate tours and each time itās gone OFF, so I suppose a banger never truly ages. The songās middle 8 makes a bid at profundity by dissolving the āheartbreakerā faƧade and revealing what lies underneath: a girl so scared of love that she thinks you have to break a heart or someone will break yours. That might be true, but nobodyās coming to a song called āHow to Be a Heartbreakerā looking for an intellectual exegesis of the dynamics of romantic relationships. Nope. Simply put, itās just a great bop. The songās music video should also be mentioned, because itās an absolute scream. Marina said at the time: āI had 100 per cent creative control over this video. I was like OK, letās get six Calvin Klein models and put them in the shower and Iāll be standing in the middle in PVCā. Are we sure she isnāt a gay man? The Speedo-tastic visual is linked below: Ā Comments @CatelynnMarieĀ Great song, but entirely overrated @Poltergeist Iām really glad it brought her more reception. Even though it was released later it feels like itās always been there since the beginning @holy scheisse Fun. But another Katy perry reject sounding song Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruelty 5,887 Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 āI could have just done it as Marina Diamandis, but for some reason at the time it was a relationship that had really hurt me and it was comforting to turn it into a fantasyā¦ This is a record about being f*cked over.ā 7 THE STATE OF DREAMING ā average 8.04 Highest: 11 x 2 (@Born This WayĀ @Galvon); 10 x 3 (@ARTPOPeĀ @DrKindnessKunt1999Ā @Lady Gaga 2009) Lowest: 1 (Admin) Electra Heart finally accepts that sheās living day to day on delusions and dreams. After playing dress-up on songs like āPrimadonnaā and āHomewreckerā, the lyrics sound like a revelation, a wakeup callāand āmy life is a playā is equally applicable to Marina Diamandis or Electra Heart, both avoiding facing up to their suffering by pretending to be something theyāre not. The song was inspired by a figure especially known for her sense of image: Marilyn Monroe. Marina realised that millions of girls were living off āthat one quoteā (the āone quoteā is MarilynāsĀ āI just want to be wonderfulā) and ignoring the fact of Marilynās really undignified demise. The song is about how people see a beautiful image of a deeply troubled person, an image strong enough to make them believe certain things and behave in a certain way. This denial of true identity is a pivotal theme across Electra Heart, and āThe State of Dreamingā is the apotheosis of the albumās fascination with performance and fantasy. Relistening to āThe State of Dreamingā for this megarate, I was surprised to learn thatā¦ itās NOT as sh*t as I thought! The productionās unadventurous, and there are more interesting melodies elsewhere on the record, but I love the dramatic pre-chorus (āmy LIFE is a PLAY, is a PLAY-EE, is a PLAY-EE-EEā), and the soaring strings in the chorus really sell the fantasy. The camp-as-tits middle 8 continues to slap and scalp, a decade on. One thing I will say, however, is that itās borderline hilarious that millions of girls started to float on Electra Heart quotes after this came out. Itās like we collectively learned nothing. Here is the video, which I have never watched and have no interest in watching now. At the time, Marina took to Twitter to ask āWhy are people bitching about the S.O.D video budget? There WASNāT one! I filmed it after a photoshoot in 2 takesā. If that sounds like your kind of thing, a) seek help!, and b) here you are: Ā Comments @Poltergeist I love the fact that this song is both very happy and sad at the same time due to the lyrics and sound changes @holy scheisse Sheās cute @LovingIsACherryPie I love the lyrics of this song Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruelty 5,887 Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 "I changed my look so radically. Partly to become someone else and separate myself from being that love-lorn person. Partly because I wanted to see how differently I would be perceived because of it. I was interested in the power of image ā itās what pop stars are built on. And how weak that image simultaneously is.ā 6 RADIOACTIVE ā average 8.23 Highest: 11 x 1 (@HeavyMetal Halcyon); 10 x 6 (@whoresupĀ @GaGaLBĀ @juicyjuicyĀ @ARTPOPeĀ @holy scheisseĀ @LovingIsACherryPie) Lowest: 2 (@Grigio Guy) Although āFear and Loathingā was released shortly beforehand, āRadioactiveā is truly where Electra Heartās journey began. Casper Balslevās video sees the newly-blonde Electra dragging a hunk around America; itās essentially a less well-attended version of the āPerfect Illusionā video. Our first real taste of the album back in 2011, āRadioactiveā baffled and bemused critics, who couldnāt understand how the quirky āHermit the Frogā girl had transformed into Madonna overnight. (This confusion was, of course, Marinaās intention all along). If youāre going to go for this type of bold reinvention, you have to come roaring out of the gate with a stone-cold classic, and āRadioactiveā more than delivers. Itās just the biggest bop; one of her absolute best; a classic 2011 banger. I wouldnāt want a whole album of these Stargate productions, but in moderation itās a perfect slice of euphoria. Is Electra Heart a scientist? On the evidence of these slightly half-baked metaphors about overwhelming love, probably not, but itās a bop and thatās really all that matters. On a personal note, Miss Catherine Zeta cut this song before my Neon Nature Tour date, and borderline ridiculed a fan for suggesting that she would ever perform it again, soā¦ the taste is truly rotted. Anyway, @CatelynnMarie says it best: āSuper fun and was a great track to promo the era with. Great video as well!ā And since you all asked so nicely, hereās that video! Comments @Poltergeist I like it but I feel like itās quite overrated @holy scheisseĀ Fun and catchy @LovingIsACherryPie I love this track soo muchh Ā And guess what,Ā @Poltergeist?Ā ThisĀ was Admin's highest score. He gave it an 8. But we can't beĀ shady towards his music taste, because I swear he's justĀ lookingĀ for an excuse to shut the site down at this stageĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poltergeist 2,835 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Cruelty said: "I changed my look so radically. Partly to become someone else and separate myself from being that love-lorn person. Partly because I wanted to see how differently I would be perceived because of it. I was interested in the power of image ā itās what pop stars are built on. And how weak that image simultaneously is.ā 6 RADIOACTIVE ā average 8.23 Highest: 11 x 1 (@HeavyMetal Halcyon); 10 x 6 (@whoresupĀ @GaGaLBĀ @juicyjuicyĀ @ARTPOPeĀ @holy scheisseĀ @LovingIsACherryPie) Lowest: 2 (@Grigio Guy) Although āFear and Loathingā was released shortly beforehand, āRadioactiveā is truly where Electra Heartās journey began. Casper Balslevās video sees the newly-blonde Electra dragging a hunk around America; itās essentially a less well-attended version of the āPerfect Illusionā video. Our first real taste of the album back in 2011, āRadioactiveā baffled and bemused critics, who couldnāt understand how the quirky āHermit the Frogā girl had transformed into Madonna overnight. (This confusion was, of course, Marinaās intention all along). If youāre going to go for this type of bold reinvention, you have to come roaring out of the gate with a stone-cold classic, and āRadioactiveā more than delivers. Itās just the biggest bop; one of her absolute best; a classic 2011 banger. I wouldnāt want a whole album of these Stargate productions, but in moderation itās a perfect slice of euphoria. Is Electra Heart a scientist? On the evidence of these slightly half-baked metaphors about overwhelming love, probably not, but itās a bop and thatās really all that matters. On a personal note, Miss Catherine Zeta cut this song before my Neon Nature Tour date, and borderline ridiculed a fan for suggesting that she would ever perform it again, soā¦ the taste is truly rotted. Anyway, @CatelynnMarie says it best: āSuper fun and was a great track to promo the era with. Great video as well!ā And since you all asked so nicely, hereās that video! Comments @Poltergeist I like it but I feel like itās quite overrated @holy scheisseĀ Fun and catchy @LovingIsACherryPie I love this track soo muchh Ā And guess what,Ā @Poltergeist?Ā ThisĀ was Admin's highest score. He gave it an 8. But we can't beĀ shady towards his music taste, because I swear he's justĀ lookingĀ for an excuse to shut the site down at this stageĀ Feeling so priviledged to get my answer in one of the main posts!Ā I've been getting messages from my deep waters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruelty 5,887 Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 And now we have our top 5! Who do you think we're saying goodbye to next? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, Cruelty said: And now we have our top 5! Who do you think we're saying goodbye to next? Teen Idle, I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poltergeist 2,835 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, Cruelty said: And now we have our top 5! Who do you think we're saying goodbye to next? I'm betting on Starring Role I've been getting messages from my deep waters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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