Do Gaga fans idolise her past tours out of nostalgia?

[PartySick 146,609]

Me dodging spoilers as best as I can in this thread:

Stans can be stuck in the past and love TFB or TMB more if they want but each tour has been better than the last imo.

The BTWB had an amazing stage design and really neat narrative. The castle itself was cool but the fact that it opened up brings it to a crazier level. The motorcycle/piano is so on brand too. A really cohesive show.

The artRAVE had those sick catwalks, the entire ARTPOP album was performed, and it was a flexible show for some surprises (like Cake and PARTYNAUSEOUS) or covers of other songs like Bell Bottom Blues or What's Up. A real party and still my personal favorite just for how fun it is. It felt less like a show and more like Gaga was entertaining a few thousand friends at a party 

The JWT outdid everything she's done before with the tilting stage, suspended bridges, and the secondary stages. That show was a technical masterpiece and blows everything she did before out of the water.

Even Enigma had the giant robot and a really interesting stage design with different levels and shapes. And "flying" to the stage was a great idea.

I still haven't seen the stage for TCB but I'm sure it's also a marvel

I guess, as a stan that came on board in 2013 I really have to laugh at how hateful some of these nostalgia sessions can get  let the woman evolve as an artist and grow as a person. She can't always be that young 20-something who just dropped Bad Romance. The "old Gaga" doesn't need to come back

Gaga ages like wine

 

[TSUNAMI 20,455]

9 minutes ago, PartySick said:

Me dodging spoilers as best as I can in this thread:

Stans can be stuck in the past and love TFB or TMB more if they want but each tour has been better than the last imo.

The BTWB had an amazing stage design and really neat narrative. The castle itself was cool but the fact that it opened up brings it to a crazier level. The motorcycle/piano is so on brand too. A really cohesive show.

The artRAVE had those sick catwalks, the entire ARTPOP album was performed, and it was a flexible show for some surprises (like Cake and PARTYNAUSEOUS) or covers of other songs like Bell Bottom Blues or What's Up. A real party and still my personal favorite just for how fun it is. It felt less like a show and more like Gaga was entertaining a few thousand friends at a party 

The JWT outdid everything she's done before with the tilting stage, suspended bridges, and the secondary stages. That show was a technical masterpiece and blows everything she did before out of the water.

Even Enigma had the giant robot and a really interesting stage design with different levels and shapes. And "flying" to the stage was a great idea.

I still haven't seen the stage for TCB but I'm sure it's also a marvel

I guess, as a stan that came on board in 2013 I really have to laugh at how hateful some of these nostalgia sessions can get  let the woman evolve as an artist and grow as a person. She can't always be that young 20-something who just dropped Bad Romance. The "old Gaga" doesn't need to come back

Gaga ages like wine

 

You will love it and appreciate it for sure!

[lilboyblue 3,815]

 

58 minutes ago, Benji said:

From what I’ve seen of the tour so far, the Chromatica Ball looks like her best set yet.  The stage looks so different between Acts and sometimes just between songs because of how good these screens are.

I think you’re correct in that the old tours might not look as impressive now but it’s worth remembering the time they came out.  Both TMB and BTW were leagues above what other artists were doing at the time.  artRAVE’s main stage/screens were a little lacklustre but the runway setup more than makes up for it and Joanne goes for quite a good middle ground of good stage and good runways.

Agree. We mustn't forget that those tours existed in a completely different time and context. It's like watching old videos of K-Pop like maybe 2NE1 era and saying well, they're products were just okay compared to K-Pop now.

But yes, our girl really has improved and matured and really honed in on her craft now that's why it's so cool to stan her because you just feel the artistry oozing out of her. And now that she's so much more accomplished in other genres like jazz, film music and even classical composition, it's inevitable that the pop-pier parts of her are elevated as well. 

To answer OP's question, time really will be the ultimate truth-teller, the way her ASIB era and sound of music performance became such iconic landmarks of her artistry. It's still fresh now so it's long-term impact is still hard to measure, but I have a feeling a lot of her fans will look back at the Chromatica era fondly in the future and will become a yardstick for years to come.

I mean, I just listened to Chromatica again in full after a long time, and so many beautiful emotions already creeped back in that I didn't even realize I associated with the album. And the tour now is just adding to that fondness.

[Killa 15,834]

She’s gotten more professional, the old tours where looooong and had ups and downs, went trough changes. But it was all fantastic honestly. Tfm and somehow btw tours had a magic to it, it just was right and worked, and was so exciting. 
still gaga always has captivating moments and is still charismatic and fierce. Plus she sang the other day. 
Honestly since last year I’ve completely moved on from those years. 

[RudraCNG 14,320]

Not for me, I didn't like Artrave. TMB, JWT and BTWB were masterpieces, and TCB looked really awesome, but I need to watch it again from a better recording.

[QueenMortuana 1,020]

3 hours ago, Staryu17 said:

I think the JWT is her best to date, but y'all ain't ready for that discussion 👀

It might be my favorite tour as well, next to The Monster Ball 1.0.

[Schwerk 7,002]

I've seen them all but The Fame Ball and the MB 1.0 and I love every tour for a different reason.

The amount of little details in the Monster Ball stage is insane. After all these years I still spot new things. The interludes were haunting. Also the live backing vocals were top notch. And the yellow brick road storyline was cute and just the right amount of theatrically. And I love rock so for a pop star to be so rock n roll was a revolution to me.

Chromatica Ball takes me back to The Monster Ball when it comes to that rockstar energy and poetic interludes, the stage even reminiscent of The Monster Ball 1.0. But because of this stage and the fact shes doing stadiums this will never be my favorite show cause the view is just very disappointing.

The Born this way Ball Monster pit was a struggle to get in but in there it was the best. Only 500 people, all monsters, lots of space to dance, an extremely good few from every spot, you got to see her up close even if your in the back/middle, it was awesome.

Artrave was so much fun when I realised I could literally walk around and under all the catwalks during one show. We had room to dance and whenever she was on the catwalks it felt like she was dancing with us, not for us. It also meant you didn't have to cue for a good spot, unless you wanted front row main stage, which was also amazing BTW, but dancing all over the place is my best memory of that tour.

Joanne was my least favorite because she was up high on those bridges and stages so much, but it was still a wonderful tour where we had a lot of cute moments to connect with her, which was nice. The cure was always such a sweet moment. 

She's constantly evolving but she set the bar real high with the Monster Ball IMO, that show has such a good flow and her tenacity is contagious and inspiring.

[Schwerk 7,002]

4 hours ago, Omar Vela said:

No they don'! I tought the same the first time they showed us the stage but I've seen many videos from different angles and I can tell you that this is the way these stage has to look. It's part of the integral artistic vision of the tour.

And getting back on the thread, the answer is YES. People is so nostalgic and tend to putting past tours on a very high pedestal. I can understand the love and praise for the BTW Ball but I'm totally speechless everytime someone says that the artrave was better (design was) than TCB, like HOW?!?! ... TCB is more artistic than the ARTrave, that tour was rushed, the olympus inflatable thing was so tiny (it looked like it was a manufacture error that couldn't be change), it was overproduced and the only thing that was great were the catwalks.

Problem is they get those videos from different angles by holding up their phones and cameras above their heads. The videos are not representing the actual views, which are abstracted in part by the block stage, the tall banisters of the catwalk stairs and the people holding up their phones.

[KORG 4,756]

Its simple.

They are nostalgic about her popularity at those times, not necessarily the tours.

Personally I think TFB and TMB1.0 were peak... because she was fresh and unusual.

Tmb2.0 & BTWB were clearly her peak popularity, but there's nothing particularly special about them. A castle does not maketh a tour.

Artrave was fun, it was good but she was not herself during it.

JWT was a standard adults pop performance. There was little of note. Staging? Cool. The rest? Standard, but her best vocal.

I havent seen much of enigma because it didn't look, from the bits I've seen, to be my vibe.

This tour has all her best elements. Great visuals, vocals etc, but the stage isn't huge and she isn't dominating the globe. Boo hoo.

The kids are glory supporters and we already knew.

[dopega 3,703]

imho, yes 100%

 

[ThisBitch 3,436]

Yes they do. The Chromatica Ball is her best tour in terms of visuals, vocals and fashion. It's an evolution of the Monster Ball and her theatrical performances. This is peak Gaga, this is her Magnum Opus Ball!

[JoanneMonster 8,636]

This happens with every tour. When the artrave started everyone wanted the castle stage, when tha joanne tour started everyone missed the artrave, and now with the chromatica ball everyone wants the joanne stage. Just wait til her next tour and everyone will love the chromatica ball

[tyler k 4,892]

5 hours ago, FameMonster01 said:

Also her creative drive, and passion for pop music has declined as well. I don't mean to compare, but Madonna has been reinventing her pop music, remixing her pop songs for the tours etc etc, while Gaga literally didn't seem to care for her sixth studio album, and took a minimalistic approach

can we PLEASE put this tired-ass narrative TO REST okay!? 

her creative drive declining?!? excuse me... it's not like this woman just starred in the highest grossing drama since 2019, released a remix album, released a jazz duets album & promoted it, rebranded her make-up line, did ALL those incredible photoshoots during the Oscar buzz, and NOW is performing her sold out stadium tour that brings back dark visuals and concepts that fans have been begging for for literal YEARS. a tour that tells a whole ass STORY with a conceptual stage design that speaks to the story he's telling.

creative drive is declining? goodbye. 

I'm also so incredibly tired of seeing fans sayings her passion for pop music has declined. where's the evidence of that? she's said many times she will always be a musician first. I see an immense amount of PASSION and ENERGY in her eyes while performing those Chromatica songs. just because she didn't promote like other pop girlies in 2020 doesn't mean she's "done with pop" please. there were more pressing things going on in the world than promoting a pop album. her priorities have changed. 

also what's the issue of taking a minimalist approach to the tour? total 180 from the album, but still thematically and aesthetically in line with what Chromatica IS. so i don't understand what you really want. 

also also, because your comment has upset me, lowkey gross of you to assume she didn't care for Chromatica.... she wouldn't release it if she wasn't proud of it. why would she release something she doesn't care for?! did you not once consider that perhaps it's very difficult to perform these songs because they speak so candidly about how horrible things were for her during 2017-2020? she's spoken MANY times about how she was so depressed and didn't feel like herself while recording it! no doubt these songs remind her of that time, could be the reason why Fun Tonight, Plastic Doll, 1000 Doves aren't on the setlist (RIP Sine from Above fly high angel you deserve a spot on that list lol) but still.

I'm seriously so tired sick of "fans" assuming she's 'done with music & pop' like oh, did you ask her? did she tell you? 

and "I don't mean to compare her to Madonna" and then you literally did......

[EGOT2027 10,807]

i think she is definitely a better singer now. i think her dancing overall has declined with her health issues, but it’s still really good. i think overall now she has an old rock star legend energy that she didn’t have back then. she feels more iconic onstage but also more separated/untouchable from the crowd. 

i think people idolize the monster ball and born this way ball because overall they were just so bananas creatively and she had a certain energy at that point of her career as she was rising that just can never be matched. her passion isn’t 100% with pop music now. she’s a legend, not the rebellious new kid. she also felt more like “one of us” then rather than a millionaire oscar winner who has lived in a mansion for a decade 

[ThisBitch 3,436]

11 minutes ago, EGOT2027 said:

i think she is definitely a better singer now. i think her dancing overall has declined with her health issues, but it’s still really good. i think overall now she has an old rock star legend energy that she didn’t have back then. she feels more iconic onstage but also more separated/untouchable from the crowd. 

i think people idolize the monster ball and born this way ball because overall they were just so bananas creatively and she had a certain energy at that point of her career as she was rising that just can never be matched. her passion isn’t 100% with pop music now. she’s a legend, not the rebellious new kid. she also felt more like “one of us” then rather than a millionaire oscar winner who has lived in a mansion for a decade 

You're right but I think it's beautiful that she has an iconic aura around her now. A bit untouchable but beautiful.