Suuus 5,632 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 32 minutes ago, MOT said: An allegation of an offence having been committed is not proof of an offence having been committed. This thread could end up being deleted, like the other one. Why would he lie about this and how do exspect him to prove it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolkins 4,125 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Suuus said: just because he gave them a job they should just be quiet about the abuse they have been through thats ridiculous they have the right to speak out I think you’ve misunderstood what I meant. I believe the dancers. Not the bore worms! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem 17,800 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Levine said: A statement about what? you're talking as she's aware of this. She can't fire her choreographer 6 days before a WORLD TOUR because a dancer on instagram via dms said something. Stop it already. STOP.IT. Does she live under a rock? We’re talking about people who worked for her for over a decade, she must be aware of what’s happening. If she doesn’t acknowledge any of this, all of her kindness bullshit will really be embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsemanche 93,886 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, Levine said: A statement about what? you're talking as she's aware of this. She can't fire her choreographer 6 days before a WORLD TOUR because a dancer on instagram via dms said something. Stop it already. STOP.IT. The way you're downplaying the severity of the abuse and the situations in which the dancers were is seriously disgusting. Soft, soothing, and succulent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriane 21,116 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, Admin said: I don’t think this is correct, but I also know very little about how these legal things work so I’m not going to debate. Someone with more insight can probably help. This probably depends on the countries or even the states. But I'd find it surprising that you can't just fire someone like this if they did something really bad. The only GGD member who can read / Credits to Celloo Deng for the profile pic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 49,826 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 i don't see why richy can't be fired now tbh. he should have an assistant who fills in for him when he can't work and all the dancers should know the choreo 5 days before a tour just cover up the negative press with tour hype posts mother, what must i do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGOT2027 10,894 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 rehearsal must be so awkward this morning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVeryGagaHolyDick 25,711 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, Admin said: I don’t think this is correct, but I also know very little about how these legal things work so I’m not going to debate. Someone with more insight can probably help. I didn't check myself, but someone in this thread said that Richy's 2014 contract that leaked says he can be fired whenever Gaga wants, for any or no reason. Take that with a grain of salt though, unless someone posts the reciepts. But either way, I don't think Gaga was aware that these stories would blow up out of nowhere yesterday, otherwise I believe her press release would be ready. I'm so, so, so sorry for her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGOT2027 10,894 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, NATAH said: ok but if mark and michael are speaking up... this means this has been an issue since TMBT has gaga really been that unaware for this long? or is she just powerless? the fact none of the dancers are mad at her speaks volumes for her innocence but i just can't find a connection on how this has been a thing for over a decade with seemingly no major action taken wait i saw what michael said but what did mark say while i was sleeping? this is all so sad. gaga seems to love richy. i said this yesterday, but gaga put richy in ASIB and uses him for jazz performances even. i doubt she was forced to do those things. i guess if the dancers are going out of their way to complement gaga while talking about this then she must’ve not known but idk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levine 23,591 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, Hurem said: Does she live under a rock? We’re talking about people who worked for her for over a decade, she must be aware of what’s happening. If she doesn’t acknowledge any of this, all of her kindness bullshit will really be embarrassing. So you have already decided that Gaga knows all of this and she never stopped it nor spoken about it. And lol at "her kindness bullshit", wow. So you leaving this forum and you are unstanning her, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOT 3,080 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, Suuus said: Why would he lie about this and how do exspect him to prove it I believe we are talking about an allegation of what could be a criminal offence. People on here need to be careful what they say about that, and I believe the mods need to be careful about what they allow people to say about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan 2,079 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 37 minutes ago, Admin said: I don’t think this is correct, but I also know very little about how these legal things work so I’m not going to debate. Someone with more insight can probably help. It’s my job lol, it is correct. Its not like a mortgage, these contracts can be terminated if their are grounds for dismissal. Assault (in any form) is definitely grounds for dismissal. To be clear, I am not trying to attack Gaga here, but can we believe she would see most of her long term dancers go and not be aware of it? I guess non of us can know, but it’s concerning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levine 23,591 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, alsemanche said: The way you're downplaying the severity of the abuse and the situations in which the dancers were is seriously disgusting. The fact that I hope y'all 12 or something because you don't get it. No one is downplaying the severity of the abuse, but Gaga can't suddenly fire him because a dancer made a few minutes video about certain allegations. They need to investigate it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 49,826 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, EGOT2027 said: wait i saw what michael said but what did mark say while i was sleeping? this is all so sad. gaga seems to love richy. i said this yesterday, but gaga put richy in ASIB and uses him for jazz performances even. i doubt she was forced to do those things. i guess if the dancers are going out of their way to complement gaga while talking about this then she must’ve not known but idk there was a post here that claimed mark and jeremy also agreed to the toxic work environment mother, what must i do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levine 23,591 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 21 minutes ago, NATAH said: ok but if mark and michael are speaking up... this means this has been an issue since TMBT has gaga really been that unaware for this long? or is she just powerless? the fact none of the dancers are mad at her speaks volumes for her innocence but i just can't find a connection on how this has been a thing for over a decade with seemingly no major action taken Montana herself left Gaga out of this, but some users here like @Huremhave already decided that she knows and she condones Richy's beheaviour. Basically she's evil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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