Multiple members of Gaga's OG dance team quit

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30 minutes ago, GGM said:

Anyone who thinks Gaga doesn't/didn't know about this is delulu. 

Richy is the dancers' boss but Gaga is technically his boss. You don't just overhaul an entire DEPARTMENT/TEAM of employees without getting consent from your higher ups. I don't believe for a second that Richy went over Gaga's head and took the liberty to just rehire a whole group of dancers without her knowledge + consent. He's not a lawyer so he would've needed the support of her legal team to make sure "not inviting them back" i.e. "firing" them was legal. He wouldn't be stupid enough to risk a pile of lawsuits for "unjustified dismissal" by all the dancers ESPECIALLY if he knew claims of abuse could surface. 

The question is what are the reasons Richy/Gaga decided not to invite these dancers back? 

Gaga addresses everyone on her stage by name. She's aware of who is/isn't there and she ultimately approves who is/isn't there. Imagine Michael Bearden changed up her piano/guitars without her consent, do you think she'd be happy about that? No way. He would have to consult with her, pitch reasons as to why he's making the changes and Gaga would evaluate if it was a professional/creatively smart decision and then say yes or no. The same applies to the situation with Richy. Except this time we're dealing with PEOPLE not musical instruments.

Similar to the homophobic bass player I believe Gaga/her team are aware and thought they could get away with it discreetly but it's now all coming to light. The buck stops with Gaga and to think she is oblivious to huge decision making processes for a world tour is delulu; especially when she admits she is heavily involved in every aspect of her shows. (that's what made us stan her in the first place).

In regards to the overhaul of dancers, that's not how it works in the industry. They didn't "rehire" new dancers, because the old dancers were never offered the tour in the first place. In the industry, dancers work freelance and are offered jobs on a project-by-project basis, it isn't a job where they are contracted to be on all of her future tours or videos, so no support from her legal team would be needed to not invite the dancers back. As her creative director, Richy holds the power to do that and it is to his discretion which dancers are invited back. Similarly to how Montana mentioned in her video that Laurieann Gibson was the one who hired her back when she was Gaga's creative director. Yes, Gaga is the top boss but responsibility is delegated to other people who look after each section of her career.

It's likely that Gaga was told the dancers had accepted work on other projects and that is why they wouldn't be on the tour, which would be believable to her as it's very normal in the industry and it's not like Gaga is using her dancers very often these days, so they have been working on other projects a lot more. They probably weren't telling her the truth of why Richy had not given the dancers their offers or some dancers had chosen not to be involved.

And in regards to the "homophobic bass player", can you link me to his homophobic comments? Because everybody keeps mentioning this, but all I remember is when he said he didn't like Lil Nas X's video and didn't understand why sexuality is so important and prevalent in music. Are those the comments you are referring to or did I miss something else?

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Just now, Benji said:

Not at all, this could be career ending

Oh god i hope not

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1 minute ago, Benji said:

Not at all, this could be career ending

This is not going to end her career 

it’s going to end Richie’s. gaga will not condone this, give her/her team time to respond. 

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2 minutes ago, RenegAde said:

Maybe wait to get more information before running with harmful narratives ? Dang Some Fans are so eager to assume the worst of gaga in the guise of " wanting justice for the victims "

Both things are not mutually exclusive. You can want justice for victims while also wanting action from the team. 

I have zero loyalty to the dancers and at the risk of sounding harsh Idgaf that they're not on the CBT. Who even cares about Montana as a dancer let's be real lol. Especially when her husband is problematic as it is but funnily enough he's still working there. He should be next to go. 

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Literally 5 days before the tour starts. The tour the fanbase has waited for for 2 years and some of the international fans for longer since their canceled dates in 2018.

Why did this have to happen? Why now?

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Just now, holy scheisse said:

This is not going to end her career 

it’s going to end Richie’s. gaga will not condone this, give her/her team time to respond. 

Her own fansite has fans saying she’s sat on complaints of sexual and mental abuse, kept the person responsible onboard and exposed new dancers to him… that’s pretty career ending.

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10 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said:

All this for an iOS press release? Naur it’s not worth it. They cant fire him like he’s probably contracted. This is an issue to resolve in the LG7 era. There’s nothing they can do quickly unfortunately 

The idea that nothing could be done because of his contract is a total fallacy. No contract prevents you from being fired due to misconduct.

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1 minute ago, Benji said:

Her own fansite has fans saying she’s sat on complaints of sexual and mental abuse, kept the person responsible onboard and exposed new dancers to him… that’s pretty career ending.

Sinds when are fansites taken seriously 

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Just now, Suuus said:

Sinds when are fansites taken seriously 

They're not, but if her own fans are saying this you can bet this is what other people will think too.

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Just now, Benji said:

Her own fansite has fans saying she’s sat on complaints of sexual and mental abuse, kept the person responsible onboard and exposed new dancers to him… that’s pretty career ending.

You fans have no clue what goes on you are all just guessing and making up stories the catastrophizing of it all. 
 

Lady Gaga’s legacy is too strong to be destroyed over night by something she didn’t even do personally. 

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3 minutes ago, Night Vision said:

The idea that nothing could be done because of his contract is a total fallacy. No contract prevents you from being fired due to misconduct.

If you want to be technical, fine. But he’s gonna sue Gaga badly, you know that right?

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1 minute ago, holy scheisse said:

You fans have no clue what goes on you are all just guessing and making up stories the catastrophizing of it all. 
 

Lady Gaga’s legacy is too strong to be destroyed over night by something she didn’t even do personally. 

We can hope!  I’m still camp she didn’t know but if her own fans think she did, I dread to think what the GP would now the press are getting involved

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4 minutes ago, Night Vision said:

In regards to the overhaul of dancers, that's not how it works in the industry. They didn't "rehire" new dancers, because the old dancers were never offered the tour in the first place. In the industry, dancers work freelance and are offered jobs on a project-by-project basis, it isn't a job where they are contracted to be on all of her future tours or videos, so no support from her legal team would be needed to not invite the dancers back. As her creative director, Richy holds the power to do that and it is to his discretion which dancers are invited back. Similarly to how Montana mentioned in her video that Laurieann Gibson was the one who hired her back when she was Gaga's creative director. Yes, Gaga is the top boss but responsibility is delegated to other people who look after each section of her career.

It's likely that Gaga was told the dancers had accepted work on other projects and that is why they wouldn't be on the tour, which would be believable to her as it's very normal in the industry and it's not like Gaga is using her dancers very often these days, so they have been working on other projects a lot more. They probably weren't telling her the truth of why Richy had not given the dancers their offers or some dancers had chosen not to be involved.

And in regards to the "homophobic bass player", can you link me to his homophobic comments? Because everybody keeps mentioning this, but all I remember is when he said he didn't like Lil Nas X's video and didn't understand why sexuality is so important and prevalent in music. Are those the comments you are referring to or did I miss something else?

Yes I know. What I meant by "fired" was "not being invited back" referring to the freelance style of employment. It's interesting that Montana is the only one who said she QUIT but the others say they weren't invited back. Sounds like Montana has received legal advice and is going after Richie for the abuse rather than the overall company for an unjustified dismissal. 

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Just now, StarstruckIllusion said:

If you want to be technical, fine. But he’s gonna sue Gaga badly, you know that right?

And he is gunna lose badly because gaga can hire the best lawyers in the business 

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Just now, StarstruckIllusion said:

If you want to be technical, fine. But he’s gonna sue Gaga badly, you know that right?

No, he isn't  If he is fired due to misconduct, he doesn't have any legal grounds to sue her unless he then proves that he was falsely accused. With respect, people are doing a lot of talking without any real knowledge of how these things actually work.