FfFfFfFF 58,120 Posted May 18, 2022 Author Share Posted May 18, 2022 Just now, PartySick said: So um. The history + geopolitics of the Balkans >>> quantum physics. Balkans are the place where every country has or had an irredentist goal (Albania wants Epirus, NW Macedonia and parts of Montenegro, Serbia wants Kosovo and Republica Srpska, everybody wants North Macedonia etc) It's not a coincidence WW1 started here. A testament to the geopolitical chaos of the Balkans is that someone will probably quote and argue with something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,539 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Ivannn said: Croatian president Said we should block them but he has no authority to do that. I can work with that Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivannn 1,150 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Regina George said: You talked to me personally about this issue and my opinions on it? Why are we even mentioning this? Like how can someone be so delusional and think that Bosnians are treating Croats badly when Croats have best ministries in the country and are basically able to block the country whenever they want to. This is not about my people or your people. This is about what is actually right thing to do. Imagine if 17% of bosnians blocked Croatia for years and basically tortured poor people just so they could achieve something. Be human. You Are forgeting to mention that Croatia is one of signing parties to Dayton treaty and is obligated to oversee its application in BiH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,539 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Just now, FfFfFfFF said: The history + geopolitics of the Balkans >>> quantum physics. Balkans are the place where every country has or had an irredentist goal (Albania wants Epirus, NW Macedonia and parts of Montenegro, Serbia wants Kosovo and Republica Srpska, everybody wants North Macedonia etc) It's not a coincidence WW1 started here. A testament to the geopolitical chaos of the Balkans is that someone will probably quote and argue with something. I've noticed My American brain is fried just reading these posts Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Just now, Ivannn said: You Are forgeting to mention that Croatia is one of signing parties to Dayton treaty and is obligated to oversee its application in BiH. Dayton by itself is a trashy document that solved nothing. I do agree that intervention is welcome, but to block whole country for 4 years just because you are not elected? That’s straight up torture. Please ask yourself why Dragan Covic didn’t want sanctions against Russia. That man and everyone who supports him is no good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sara57 3,018 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 7 hours ago, FfFfFfFF said: The history + geopolitics of the Balkans >>> quantum physics. Balkans are the place where every country has or had an irredentist goal (Albania wants Epirus, NW Macedonia and parts of Montenegro, Serbia wants Kosovo and Republica Srpska, everybody wants North Macedonia etc) It's not a coincidence WW1 started here. A testament to the geopolitical chaos of the Balkans is that someone will probably quote and argue with something. You are completely right I'm from Croatia, my father is Croat and my mother is Serb, and a half of my family lives in Bosnia. Imagine our family lunches Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivannn 1,150 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Just now, Regina George said: Dayton by itself is a trashy document that solved nothing. I do agree that intervention is welcome, but to block whole country for 4 years just because you are not elected? That’s straight up torture. Please ask yourself why Dragan Covic didn’t want sanctions against Russia. That man and everyone who supports him is no good. You can call Dayton trash but it is a foundation of modern day BiH. I do not agree with Covic and I did not know he did not want sanctions. You can be sure that Croats do not support Covic as he maybe tries to present. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Just now, Ivannn said: You can call Dayton trash but it is a foundation of modern day BiH. I do not agree with Covic and I did not know he did not want sanctions. You can be sure that Croats do not support Covic as he maybe tries to present. I hope so. I’m sorry if I came of as rude or unpleasant but this topic is very triggering for me. My family was affected by war and we’re still dealing with that. Just imagine how stressful it is to watch people who want to destroy your country constantly talking about it and basically threatening you. Milanovic said today that Croatian military is able to infiltrate Bosnia and that it’s their right to do so. Imagine living with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivannn 1,150 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, Regina George said: I hope so. I’m sorry if I came of as rude or unpleasant but this topic is very triggering for me. My family was affected by war and we’re still dealing with that. Just imagine how stressful it is to watch people who want to destroy your country constantly talking about it and basically threatening you. Milanovic said today that Croatian military is able to infiltrate Bosnia and that it’s their right to do so. Imagine living with that. I am in my 20’s and I do not know a single person who think Croatia should Play a role in internal BiH affairs. Majority of people actually get iritated on things Like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debithius 6,056 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 hour ago, dit said: Turkey's reason was that Sweden and Finland harbor and host PKK terrorists (which is a proven fact). Still not a good move in my opinion because Finland and Sweden's safety are at risk but you can kind of almost understand their hesitation and their attempt at getting Sweden and Finland to comply...Croatia's reason seems ESPECIALLY dumb though...how does the rights of the Croats in Bosnia have anything to do with Sweden and Finland? And there are tons of NATO nations hosting these people and Turkey still seem to not have any issues with them. Croatia's reasoning doesn't make any sense at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dit 46,738 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 27 minutes ago, Debithius said: And there are tons of NATO nations hosting these people and Turkey still seem to not have any issues with them. Croatia's reasoning doesn't make any sense at all. yeah but Turkey has no leverage over members already in. Of course it is taking advantage of having leverage now in regards to Sweden and Finland. Sad but in terms of realpolitics it makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debithius 6,056 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 7 hours ago, dit said: yeah but Turkey has no leverage over members already in. Of course it is taking advantage of having leverage now in regards to Sweden and Finland. Sad but in terms of realpolitics it makes sense. Funny thing is he let in other countries who host those people though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neroneau 1,017 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 A topic about a Balkan country has turned sour, as always with every Balkan topic lmao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,829 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Nationalism is such a poison Its no better than religion. Blind allegiance to a social construct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Eastern europe is a mess, Russia the big bully making everyone panic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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