luckyanderson 379 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 3 hours ago, LilyLark said: Honestly this is why I was so, so angry that some people refused to vote for Clinton when it came to Clinton or Trump or voted Green even if they lived in a non Blue state. The Supreme Court was a serious issue-especially because of Ruth's age-and people kept ignoring it. T Ruth is a ****ing bitch and is rotting in hell as we speak. She IGNORED indigenous people's rights and despite her ailing health REFUSED to step down from the court under Obama because she wanted a female to replace her. She is the SINGULAR MOST CAUSE for this today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichAssPiss 5,032 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Married the Night said: Sorry to say but gay marriage isn’t safe either. Oh, honey. Anti-sodomy laws aren't even safe. That case only happened in 2003. We can go back to getting arrested state by state for private sexuality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popo 3,781 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Eighteen said: they can pass a law through congress to make it a federal law (meaning a law all states have to abide by). but not sure what kinds of complications that would entail for example, idk if a state can sue the federal government over it, then having the case come up to the supreme court again and then they strike that down making the federal government from that point on powerless on the issue (maybe? ). Manchin voted against it (because it makes no difference and you need 60 votes to pass the bill and it's politically smart for him), so you're going to have to find at least 10 other republican votes. So chances are nothing will be done about this and it's up to the state legislatures, but the majority of the states that does not have it codified as state law are republican controlled. Meanwhile, you have your democrat governors in battleground states (WI/MI) acting as the last bulwark against the republican legislature banning abortion in those states. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka 8,008 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 The access to abortion was never going to be an issue that would be solved electorally. There needs to be a mass movement (general strike, protests, etc.) to exert pressure. If the solution is to simply vote more Democrats in to expand the court, abolish filibuster, or whatever other tactic that could have been done all the other times Dems had a majority since the initial decision to codify it into law then you havent learned anything. This country and its gov is fundamentally rightwing and (as public opinion shows) out of step with what the public believes and wants. Mass movement politics (that doesn't merely rely on electing a more "progressive" Democrat) is the only way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka 8,008 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 3 hours ago, LilyLark said: Honestly this is why I was so, so angry that some people refused to vote for Clinton when it came to Clinton or Trump or voted Green even if they lived in a non Blue state. The Supreme Court was a serious issue-especially because of Ruth's age-and people kept ignoring it. T If people keep making excuses for Dems like you are doing here, don't expect people to show up to vote for them. Literal decades have passed since Roe v Wade and Dems didn't do anything about it. I know this is a tired talking point, but when it comes to issues like this, the US gov is fundamentally right wing and won't solve these issues the way liberals think it will. It is irredeemable and nearly impossible to reform. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremiahsaint1000 487 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 i wish trump had been aborted, and presidents shouldnt be able to appoint more than one judge in their entire 4-8 years wtf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka 8,008 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Nickolas724 said: this this this, people never think about the long run and will be outraged that democrats didn’t do anything to stop it when they didn’t even vote democrat in the first place 1/3 of this country's voting-eligible population does not routinely vote, an overwhelming number of that population from disenfranchised and poorer communities, who are most affected by these issues. Many of these same non-voters have lost complete faith in government (rightfully so). To pin this on them and not the politicians who didn't act is something else, especially when you're framing this issue as one where democrats (if they were present in enough numbers) would have been able to stop this, when that has been the case several times in the last 50 years and hasn't happened yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremiahsaint1000 487 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 34 minutes ago, luckyanderson said: Ruth is a ****ing bitch and is rotting in hell as we speak. She IGNORED indigenous people's rights and despite her ailing health REFUSED to step down from the court under Obama because she wanted a female to replace her. She is the SINGULAR MOST CAUSE for this today. lol no the cause of this is republican judges voting to abolish roe v wade, dont blame a dead woman for the actions of republican judges one of which was confirmed even though he ****ing raped someone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gothicdream 39,655 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Absolutely despicable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,563 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 It’s not a Gaga release without a life altering societal disaster huh 😭😭 Trump being elected is one jumpscare, but the even bigger one is the fact Democrats are powerless* to stop them. So glad I do not reside in this terrible country and my thoughts and prayers to those who do 🥲 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantasmas 12,365 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Y’all needa stop arguing in here and get proactive If you are eligible to do so, please vote. Please talk to your friends about voting too. Everything you need to know about your registration and when and where you can vote can be found here: https://www.usa.gov/voting If you can, please also donate to groups actively fighting for abortion rights. The National Network of Abortion Funds is an amazing place to donate or obtain assistance with expenses of planning an abortion such as travel, meals, and child care: https://abortionfunds.org/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G U C C I 5,578 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Married the Night said: Sorry to say but gay marriage isn’t safe either. 3 hours ago, stevana229 said: im not too sure the Supreme Court would actually do this... I think republicans would FREAK out, because that would put their victories in the 2022 midterms at stake. Suburban women would revolt against the GOP like never seen before I would be shocked to high heavens if this even remotely led to democrats winning midterm elections over republicans. It won’t. Not in enough places to matter. All over this country there are laws being put into place that limit education in a way that it will never recover. It was already abysmal before. Christians using their “religious beliefs” to rally those around common hatred is gaining everyday where I live. I was born and raised in the Deep South and in a conservative church. If you think this is bad you haven’t spent much time here and this is coming from a white straight presenting female. It’s at a fever pitch I would have never dreamed of before trump. If you are currently in a marriage with the same sex I would be extremely terrified because I’m already scared for you. I am PRAYING CHANTING MANIFESTING someone comes along and leads the Democratic Party to victory over these people but it’s going to be a hard fight. There are too many people who don’t care about things that don’t effect them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulixtla 2,170 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Looks like this thread got a much deserved clean up. One thing worth reading which got washed with all of the garbage is this: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/5/3/2095557/-If-you-haven-t-already-turn-that-anger-over-Roe-and-all-the-other-GOP-crap-into-activism My music: https://caulixtla.com/music Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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