Dolly Parton fans upset over her NFT

[Admin 24,441]

8 minutes ago, NATAH said:

whilst they pollute, at least they serve a purpose of community, live music and memorable experience 

NFTs pollute on a giant scale for NO purpose other than to make somebody stupidly rich

Dolly’s NFT concert serves the exact same purpose lol

[Leblanc 2,454]

53 minutes ago, alsemanche said:

That's not exactly accurate because capitalism will find a way to adapt regardless of what costumers do. The problem is capitalism in itself. We've already seen big companies act like they care about the environment and switching to vegan products but that doesn't solve sh*t because these items are still mass produced and overproduced with a lot of waste and pollution. Blaming individuals is useless because we could all switch to metal straws overnight and capitalism will also adapt to that and create waste and environmental hazard anyway. We need to get rid of the sh*t system. Costumers are forced to comply at the end of the day because what else can we do? So the least we can do is call it out and fight against it even if we're forcibly participating in it because there's no other way to survive. 

I see your point but my issue is that people only really have an issue with stuff they don't see a point in which is why it bothers me that people wanna jump on the NFT hate over its environmental impact. I just don't see how this is what is really rallying people against it, rather they just wanna use that excuse because they don't like the idea of it and you can't really come back against a 'environmental impact' criticism. Now I bet those people aren't giving the same **** to every company they directly or indirectly support in their everyday lives. It's like picking and choosing which stuff to be mad at and framing it with that excuse. That's what bothers me. 

[nATAH 49,790]

3 minutes ago, Admin said:

Dolly’s NFT concert serves the exact same purpose lol

no they don't, cus an NFT is a digital receipt, not a concert experience

when you buy an NFT, you buy a spot in a blockchain so it's actually even more pollution for a lot less lol

[Leblanc 2,454]

1 hour ago, Suspiria said:

But the people pointing the finger aren't promoting NFTs.

Everyone does bad things (the whole let he without sin cast the first stone thing). If you believe that, go ahead I can't really argue with it.

But still, should we never call out anyone over anything? Just because I use some single-use plastics for example, does that mean I shouldn't call someone out if they litter?

I mean yeah, basically if you aint got **** to hide then go for it but I know when my **** ain't perfect I'm not gunna start calling someone out over something I myself also contribute to.

[GipJo 2,912]

1 minute ago, Leblanc said:

I see your point but my issue is that people only really have an issue with stuff they don't see a point in which is why it bothers me that people wanna jump on the NFT hate over its environmental impact. I just don't see how this is what is really rallying people against it, rather they just wanna use that excuse because they don't like the idea of it and you can't really come back against a 'environmental impact' criticism. Now I bet those people aren't giving the same **** to every company they directly or indirectly support in their everyday lives. It's like picking and choosing which stuff to be mad at and framing it with that excuse. That's what bothers me. 

Why do you just assume people " jump on the hate train"? Why can't it be people with informed information rallying against it? That's a weird take. Just because you can't see a point against NFTs doesn't mean others can't. It DOES has big environment impact, if you don't know why you should do research rather than doubting others. You shouldn't ask people to be perfect at their value, ask about the people who has the money and power to make that choice without lowing their living quality.

No matter what reason people are against it, if it's a fact that it severely impacts environment (and with not good outcome whatsoever), then they're justified to call out corporations for that, why would you bothered by people who doing it for the right cause?

[GipJo 2,912]

3 minutes ago, Leblanc said:

I mean yeah, basically if you aint got **** to hide then go for it but I know when my **** ain't perfect I'm not gunna start calling someone out over something I myself also contribute to.

You don't have to be perfect to call out corporations, people! Your entire life's bad decisions of not being environment friendly doesn't even come close to the damage of ONE single bad decision those corporate heads did.

[Ronk 14,762]

15 minutes ago, Admin said:

Dolly’s NFT concert serves the exact same purpose lol

How are you doing @Admin ?  Good to see you active again.  I've been concerned about your well-being.

[GipJo 2,912]

Just now, Admin said:

It’s not an assumption, people in this very thread have demonstrated they don’t actually know much about environment. I mean, the person I first responded to literally said they “don’t understand how concerts are bad for the environment”, yet they are against NFTs lol

that doesn't unjustified the action to call out those corporations. As I said earlier, if it's a right cause, then we should go for it, if you don't want to that's fine, but you shouldn't come here and ask people to stop just because they aren't informed in the moment, every voice counts, that's how we can be heard.

[nATAH 49,790]

if anyone doesn't understand what an NFT is, this video helped me:

 

[Admin 24,441]

5 minutes ago, GipJo said:

that doesn't unjustified the action to call out those corporations. As I said earlier, if it's a right cause, then we should go for it, if you don't want to that's fine, but you shouldn't come here and ask people to stop just because they aren't informed in the moment, every voice counts, that's how we can be heard.

If someone’s voice is based on “I don’t understand NFTs so they’re bad and I heard they pollute too”, it doesn’t mean much. If anything, all it does is promote NFTs. I mean, I would’t have even heard about this concert if someone didn’t get upset.

[edgy 6,918]

Not the whataboutism in this thread ... 

Point still stands: NFTs are bad for the environment and arguing about other things that also are bad for the environment doesn't change the basic fact that NFTs are still bad. 

[PhantomOfTheDance 13,795]

how are nfts bad for the environment? I'm out of the loop tbh.

[GipJo 2,912]

4 minutes ago, Admin said:

If someone’s voice is based on “I don’t understand NFTs so they’re bad and I heard they pollute too”, it doesn’t mean much. If anything, all it does is promote NFTs. I mean, I would’t have even heard about this concert if someone didn’t get upset.

It makes you engage this conversation and if you don't want to do research about NFT later and inform yourself even after those arguments then that's all you, but it did help no matter how you frame it. We should always voice our concerns, no matter how others conceive it.

[Nathan 2,079]

Sorry, but NFTs are pointless and serve no purpose. Digital concerts have no reason to be connected to them.

 

I agree with other commenters that this is some whataboutism nonsense.

[Ziggy 11,867]

4 hours ago, Admin said:

This isn’t about celebrities, I’m asking a question about you. You just said NFT concerts should be stopped because they pollute, so I’m just asking if you’re going to be consistent and stop going to any concerts because they are all bad for the environment?

Well why invent more ways to be bad for the environment?  artists wouldn’t go away without NFTs but a live concert going away would kill artists. That’s how they make their livelihood. We already have streaming concerts so what is the point of an NFT one beyond directly making profit? The bulk of consumers get nothing out of NFTs whereas they could get something out of a live show so the needling questioning isn’t totally merited when what you’re debating aren’t even equivalent in their function