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L4S might win AOTY because of engineering nom!


monstertoronto

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11 hours ago, StarstruckIllusion said:

Love Gaga but this winning AOTY will be just too much, and literally would only be bc of honouring Tony’s career if so. Gaga stan’s claiming this as a W for her will get dragged and rightfully so

I’m not going to say she deserves to be dragged, she doesn’t, but yes - it would more-so be for Tony than it is for them as a duo. I also don’t think she’ll win AoTY, but she’ll definitely win at least a couple of others. 

I’d personally like to see Gaga win for a solo album that she actually pushes the same way she pushes everything else, something we haven’t seen in what feels like a millennium. 

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Bonkers

She should have rolled Liza into the studio for a song too.

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DoremonLove
12 hours ago, StarstruckIllusion said:

Love Gaga but this winning AOTY will be just too much, and literally would only be bc of honouring Tony’s career if so. Gaga stan’s claiming this as a W for her will get dragged and rightfully so

No offense but how do ppl with ur thinking call urself gaga fans. This album is as much of gaga as its tonys. This narrative is so annoying.

How can anoyone not love gaga
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Ziggy
11 hours ago, monstertoronto said:

I feel like people need to stop calling it a “covers” album. This isn’t pop. In jazz they don’t call them “covers”, these songs are standards.  Jazz isn’t just about “original songs” jazz is partly about how different  artists interpret standards. The artistry is reflected in how artists interpret these songs. All the jazz greats have recorded albums with standards and the “the great American songbook” because they bring their own spin to the material and this is normal for the genre. Jazz is not the same as pop and its just as worthy of the top prize as pop.  Stop seeing everything through your own personal lens and realize there are genres of music that you not appreciate or understand but that doesn’t make them less worthy to the world or the academy. 

Yeah but even the interpretations aren’t incredibly unique or earth shattering. They sound very nice! But if you’re going to sing songs that have been sung on hundreds of albums, you have to bring it in terms of interpretation. Someone like Cécil Salvant, for instance, totally reimagined Kate Bush’s Wuthering Heights on her most recent album. It’s almost indistinguishable and *her* unique perspective and artistry is fully on display. L4S is nice but to do AOTY, imo, it needs to take the interpretation places it hasn’t gone and L4S doesn’t do that (intentionally so). That’s fine. It’s very wonderful as is but that doesn’t mean it has to win AOTY either when other artists, frankly, have put out more original and equally beautiful works.

Jazz is WAY bigger than why Gaga does. Even in jazz her stuff is a little by the numbers, if also done well. Jazz is an insanely vibrant genre. Gaga is kinda doing her own thing in it totally unrelated to the currents of the genre lol

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MelbHawker

I’m not expecting her and Tony to win AOTY, but I hope they win a few of their other nominations because they both deserve it, but also to honor Tony’s life & work - his insanely amazing career deserves the recognition. 

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StarstruckIllusion
1 hour ago, DoremonLove said:

No offense but how do ppl with ur thinking call urself gaga fans. This album is as much of gaga as its tonys. This narrative is so annoying.

Bc I love and support her art. It’s that simple - not everyone has to like everything she does. You’re acting like I said Born This Way is trash and it’s getting weird.

It’s annoying bc it’s true. It’s literally a cover album and idc what mental gymnastics y’all pull to say it’s not. It’s not a sin to perform covers but idk how you don’t view this nomination as a slap in the face to her previous works that actually come from her creative spirit. Just because this cover album had alot of money behind it, doesn’t make it more legitimate than a youtube cover ☠️ 

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StarstruckIllusion
12 hours ago, monstertoronto said:

I feel like people need to stop calling it a “covers” album. This isn’t pop. In jazz they don’t call them “covers”, these songs are standards.  Jazz isn’t just about “original songs” jazz is partly about how different  artists interpret standards. The artistry is reflected in how artists interpret these songs. All the jazz greats have recorded albums with standards and the “the great American songbook” because they bring their own spin to the material and this is normal for the genre. Jazz is not the same as pop and its just as worthy of the top prize as pop.  Stop seeing everything through your own personal lens and realize there are genres of music that you not appreciate or understand but that doesn’t make them less worthy to the world or the academy. 

No one said covers and interpretations aren’t creative… it just doesn’t hold up to original works. Which is why cover albums rarely get AOTY noms in the bigger picture. Again, this nom is just mainly about honouring Tony, which is fine… but Gaga just feels like such a side character even tho she sounded amazing on it idkkk. Every year we drag the academy for it’s messiness and idk how this helps their image at all.

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Ziggy
7 hours ago, summer said:

calling L4S, or any jazz album constructed around the works of a past composer, as a cover album is the most laughable take ever, you all stretch to any reason to discredit your girls work!! sit down and shut up!

Well, like another poster said, L4S doesn’t really reinvent the wheel or give a fresh interpretation to the songs. That’s the difference between other jazz albums and this one. It’s a very straightforward cover album. That’s great. That’s lovely. That doesn’t really make it AOTY material imo, though.

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Cssomeone
5 hours ago, memomemome said:

The reason it may have an edge, is because of the split votes. And L4S may benefit from it.

while pop /alternative may be split between billie, olivia, taylor. Rnb/hip hop split between jon batiste, her, doja, kanye and lil nas.

If jazz probably leaning to gaga/tony. But one to watch out is country, cause they probably still leaning towards taylor.

Very good point. It makes me wonder if voters might not vote for Taylor as she has already won it three times (she literally won it last year)

The fact that Gaga and Tony are from different generations may help them as well

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PartySick
14 hours ago, JoanneStan420 said:

even i as a stan have only listened to that album all the way through once. i'm hoping they win best duo and best traditional pop vocal album. i truly think they deserve both, and i hope at least one of these is televised. i don't really think music video or record of the year are necessary. and i just feel like AOTY would cause too much backlash. that being said, YAAAAS BRING ON THE ALBUM OF THE YEAR WIN YAAAAS WE CAN DO THIS

I've listened to L4S more than Chromatica at this point :bear:

And that's a lot :messga:

They deserve the win in every category :tony:

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memomemome

I think one to watch out is whether it will be telecast. And traditional pop álbum is not on telecast :stalkga: it might be something? 

 

I remembered in 2016 pop vocal was excluded and little that we know 1989 snatched it

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