Israel: Gunman Kills Five Israelis in Tel Aviv Suburb

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32 minutes ago, Haris said:

Dear coolninjaguy,

if you wish to add or dispute my specific argument, please do so. Otherwise, your contribution is completely meaningless. Also, please show respect to the victims of ISIS ideology. As a Muslim myself, I found this deeply disrespectful towards the victims of so-called „Islamism“ 

Your initial post reads like a hopeful, fictitious daydream. The audacity for you to mention human rights and Israel in the same sentence, considering the entire basis of its existence is being an illegal and terrorist apartheid state. Your 'sympathy' for Palestinians has been rejected and denied - sincerely, a Muslim myself, since we're using our religious identities to brush over ethnic cleansing.

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2 minutes ago, Fanta said:

Your initial post reads like a hopeful, fictitious daydream. The audacity for you to mention human rights and Israel in the same sentence, considering the entire basis of its existence is being an illegal and terrorist apartheid state. Your 'sympathy' for Palestinians has been rejected and denied - sincerely, a Muslim myself, since we're using out religious identities to brush over apartheid and ethnic cleansing.

Hey Fanta,

please tell me how Israel is illegal, terrorist and apartheid and please also tell me where you are from. I’m very curious.

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12 minutes ago, Haris said:

Arab citizens living in Israel. Your report is not connected to that at all. Learn to differentiate.

Ok, I did not know only those deserve human rights. 

Yikes

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Just now, ARTPOP said:

Ok, I did not know only those deserve human rights. 

Yikes

Absolutely not. I am asking you - to answer to my argument. This is how a proper discussion works. You answer to a claim being made, not making up anything that pleases you as you go. 

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Just now, Haris said:

Hey Fanta,

pleaE tell me how Israel is illegal, terrorist and apartheid and please also tell me we’re you are from. I’m very curious.

Because it is an illegal, terrorist and apartheid state.

Just now, Haris said:

also tell me we’re you are from. I’m very curious.

The planet where Israel is the very antithesis of human rights.

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2 minutes ago, Fanta said:

Because it is an illegal, terrorist and apartheid state.

The planet where Israel is the very antithesis of human rights.

What an incredible argument. Chapeau. In fact you are doing is not providing any argument but stating complete insubstantial claims.

You also didn’t answer my question.

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3 minutes ago, Haris said:

Absolutely not. I am asking you - to answer to my argument. This is how a proper discussion works. You answer to a claim being made, not making up anything that pleases you as you go. 

According to your logic Saudi Arabia is also a beacon of human rights...Since the rich religious male population only have rights.

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1 minute ago, Haris said:

What an incredible argument. Chapeau. In fact you are doing is not providing any argument but stating complete insubstantial claims.

You also didn’t answer my question.

...there is no argument here, I said what I said and it will remain that way. Chapeau.

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Just now, ARTPOP said:

According to your logic Saudi Arabia is also a beacon of human rights...Since the rich religious male population only have rights.

How so? At least try to elaborate on that claim.

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1 minute ago, Fanta said:

...there is no argument here, I said what I said and it will remain that way. Chapeau.

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Topics concerning Israel/Palestine always get so heated on here, lets take a step back ya'll.

My heart goes out to the people that lost loved ones tonight because of a horrific attack.

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20 minutes ago, Haris said:

How so? At least try to elaborate on that claim.

It's a fact not a claim. And history books that aren't catered to a Zionist ideology are plenty, so go read one, it's that easy. Israel was literally formed through a colonial, genocidal process that ethnically cleanses Palestinians and settles their land to this day. 

And stop using your religion as a way to give legitimacy to your false claims and narratives because being a Muslim does not grant you any privilege in this discussion, let alone the right to speak over Arabs and non-Arabs who are actively being threatened and murdered by Israelis. And the fact that your initial post makes 0 mentions of Palestinians shows how you have 1) no clue what you're talking about and 2) no regards to Palestinian populations who are under a colonial power that's actively ethnically cleansing them and stripping them of their most basic rights. 

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1 minute ago, Fanta said:

Because it is an illegal, terrorist and apartheid state.

The planet where Israel is the very antithesis of human rights.

Illegal? Nah, shooting and stabbing innocent civilians is illegal. Not Israel.

Terrorist? You should Google what the definition of terrorism is, I’m sure you’ll be surprised to discover it’s not Israel as well.

And apartheid? That’s far from being the reality because, well there are Muslim Arabs who are doctors, nurses, police officers, lawyers, artists and even government members in the Israeli Knesset. 

I’m really tired of uneducated people like you who just keep spreading lies and hate without understanding this conflict in 100%. Y’all should actually do a real research and not just use #FreePalastine in each post/comment you make, because you actually know nothing. 

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13 minutes ago, alsemanche said:

It's a fact not a claim. And history books that aren't catered to a Zionist ideology are plenty, so go read one, it's that easy. Israel was literally formed through a colonial, genocidal process that ethnically cleanses Palestinians and settles over their land. 

And stop using your religion as a way to give legitimacy to your false claims and narratives because being a Muslim does not grant you any privilege in this discussion, let alone the right to speak over Arabs who are actively being threatened and murdered by Israelis. And the fact that your initial post makes 0 mentions of Palestinians shows how you have 1) no clue what you're talking about and 2) no regards to Palestinian populations who are under a colonial power that's actively ethnically cleansing them and stripping them of their most basic rights. 

I certainly have read quite a few history books and studies on that matter. If you’re that interested, please go on and refer me something that you regard as valuable. I’m quite interested in what you have to offer. I’m more than engaged and ready for it. 
 

How do you even dare talk about the Zionist movement as one of imperialism. The Jewish people had to flee throughout the world because of naziism and flee from their collaborators all over Europe but also the Middle East such as Irak, Iran, Turkey, Morocco, Yemen, Ethiopia, Egypt, Lebanon and many, many more. How do you even dare. The Palestinian Mufty was collaborating directly with Hitler (There is pictures of them all smiles together), on how to exterminate all the remaining Jews, as if 6 million wasn’t enough. For you to paint that picture of Imperialism is the same as the Nazis in Europe are trying to hate on the refuges from the ME at the moment. (They are invading us!!!) Disgusting!

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1 minute ago, Haris said:

How do you even dare talk about the Zionist movement as one of imperialism. The Jewish people had to flee throughout the world because of naziism and their collaborators all over Europe but also the Middle East such as Irak, Iran, Turkey, Morocco, Yemen, Ethiopia, Egypt, Lebanon and many, many more. How do you even dare. The Palestinian Mufty was collaborating directly with Hitler (There is pictures of them all smiles together), on how to exterminate all the remaining Jews, as if 6 million wasn’t enough. For you to paint that picture of Impressum is the same as the Nazis in Europe are trying to hate on the refuges from the ME.

Yup you have no idea what you're talking about, as I expected. Literally 0 knowledge of history beyond what you've been spoon-fed. Bye.