ItWasntLaauv 6,392 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Funny how everyone was weirdly pressed about her for one reason or another and she ended up getting an incredibly successful album rollout anyway. Queen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joaco95 1,631 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said: I'm more and more convinced of an agenda that makes them say this is return for payment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonTurnItUp 7,088 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 I always disagree critics, this is not the exception Anyways go and stream garbage musik Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joaco95 1,631 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 31 minutes ago, Ikonik said: I always disagree critics, this is not the exception Anyways go and stream garbage musik We will be streaming crash yasss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 her features > her solo music Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,881 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, ItWasntLaauv said: Funny how everyone was weirdly pressed about her for one reason or another and she ended up getting an incredibly successful album rollout anyway. Queen. How do we know if it's a successful rollout? We won't find that out until we see her sales figures. And La Fama was the only song that's had any sort of proper chart presence so far and even then, a #1 in Spain was the best it could do. Saoko and Chicken Teriyaki haven't charted outside of Spain and Portugal and seem to have been moved on from very quickly. It appears that even her own country isn't supporting this new sound. If collabing with big names like Travis Scott, Billie Eilish and The Weeknd couldn't make her take off, it's doubtful this is going to launch her as a big star either. It's not even indicative of her music being bad, it's just that not everyone can make it. There's clearly a big effort to make her become the next big thing but it's not taking off thus far. 1 hour ago, Joaco95 said: Maybe you haven't looked at the reviews given to your average experimental album these days but they get critical acclaim 9/10 times. Surely the very nature of music being experimental is that it won't appeal to everyone? You'll notice that critics all tend to think roughly the same way. There's a reason for that. An album this off the wall, this "love it or hate it," shouldn't be getting near enough perfect scores across the board. That simply doesn't make sense. At the very least, don't you find it a big coincidence? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joaco95 1,631 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 @StrawberryBlond im not gonna quote your bibble so anyways, theres only 13 reviews on metacritics, thats why the score its so high + half of them are 80 points and we have a 70 score wait a few days more for more reviews at the end of the day its just your opinion (if you did not liked it) not a fact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Lovers 6,927 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 11 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said: I know I'll be hated for this, but this acclaim is way overblown. This album is a mediocre mess. The fact it's experimental doesn't make it good. But this is the line that critics seem to take now. I'm more and more convinced of an agenda that makes them say this is return for payment. Especially for artists who are in the process of trying to make "happen," like Rosalia. That isn't a bash at her talent, it's just the way the critic industry seems to work now. She's way more talented than this attempt at appealing to modern fringe culture would suggest. Surely critics would see this very obvious marketing ploy, seeing how she'd changed so much from her last album? Surely critics would be able to detect what pandering to the edgy youth market looks like? As @Suspiria said elsewhere, this entire album sounds like a bunch of attempts to be TikTok hits and nothing more. Why aren't critics picking up on this? There was a time when they were so harsh to females if they tried anything new or were deemed to be trying too hard for a commercial hit or trying too hard to be edgy. Not saying this was a good thing, but my question is, what's changed? In my opinion, money talks, that's all I'll say. Do you mean they support basic music more than they used to and/or supporting highly sexualised music in a way they never used to? I'd say both are true. I guess critics are getting younger and therefore more open to edginess and sexuality in music because the old critics of yore, especially ones from "snobby" newspapers would have never normally given this kinda stuff the time of day. Yet, I'm younger than a lot of critics and even I can see the problems of so many young artists music. I'm at a loss as to how older generations can see something good in this music that I can't. Unless, as I said above, money is paid out to save an album that would otherwise get savaged. Or maybe they just enjoyed it, is that so out of the realm of possibility? Just because you didn't vibe with it doesn't mean other people don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennywise 36,079 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 I guess this is the thread that finally got me curious enough to listen to Rosalia So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
COOOK 76,406 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 This is the kind of reviews that ARTPOP aimed for tbh: divisive with discussions among both GP and fans, but praise with the critics for its experimentation and forward-thinking. My only tops: BULERÍAS HENTAI DELIRIO DE GRANDEZA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsemanche 93,922 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 It rose to 95 on Metacritic I really did not expect this critical reception (regardless of the record itself and my opinion on it) Soft, soothing, and succulent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspiria 10,683 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Ignoring the promo/presentation of the album, it's a good, maybe great, collection of songs. But wow, this praise seems... unwarranted. Everyone calling it 'experimental' and 'future facing' as if mainstream-ish artists like Grimes, FKA Twigs, Charli XCX, and most blatantly Arca, weren't using these sounds, textures and unconventional song structures 5-10 years ago. I can't help but feel that these critics are just dazzled by her 'exoticness' (for lack of a better word) as a non-english speaker? Or that they are giving her the benefit of the doubt because they aren't familiar with her language or 'culture'. I really believe if this had been an english album by an american singer it would never have gotten this reception. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennywise 36,079 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 So this is the first time I've ever listened to Rosalia ever, and I had no positive or negative feelings about so here's my non-biased, extremely exquisite review that literally nobody asked for : 1. SAOKO- I like this one even though it felt a bit grating at my ears at times 2. CANDY - I thought I'd like it at the first part of the song but then I think it went nowhere but then it got better... so idk I'll probably listen to it again but at very specific times when I'm feeling like... idk very specific 3. LA FAMA - I'll only start liking duets back if they can convince me that they are not just for clout. Like... it's like when Gaga did Sour Candy with Blackpink out of nowhere while we ALL knew that it was a bit bandwagoning. Anyway this song still sounds good enough but like also meh. 4. BULERIAS - not really for me but it does sound well-made so there's that 5. CHICKEN TERIYAKI - okay so I absolutely hate this but at the same time IT'S A BOP LIKE MY CLUSSY IS POPPIN 6. HENTAI - am I really listening to a ballad called HENTAI like what- and then she came with end part like WHAT- I really like this one 7. BIZCOCHITO - cute but boring 8. G3 N15 - this song feels like THAT bitch like, one of my faves from the album I think. I mean... I understand nothing but it does make me feel a certain way 9. MOTOMAMI - this one was a no 10. DIABLO - oh this is a bop I'll save this one 11. DELIRIO DE GRANDEZA - this is one of my faves from this album too, probably will listen again 12. CUUUUuuuuuute - it sounds like she got bored halfway, and it certainly made me feel that way to some point, but also points for the unexpected structure 13. COMO UN G - am I supposed to feel something or am I just a heartless clown or is this song just not it, who even knows 14. Abcdefg - this is not a song and I don't know... what I guess is Spanish, so I don't get it 15. LA COMBI VERSACE - this sounds just like some of the songs that came before but it could be down to the fact that I am ignorant too, so... idk sistren it doesn't sound like much 16. SAKURA - love the vocals it's probably my third favorite song from this album My general review is that sometimes maybe you shouldn't just experiment for experiment's sake . However, at the same time I don't think this album is for me to understand anyway so more power to ha So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennywise 36,079 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 I really really wanted to like it more sistren I just don't think it's for me So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,881 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 14 hours ago, Suspiria said: Ignoring the promo/presentation of the album, it's a good, maybe great, collection of songs. But wow, this praise seems... unwarranted. Everyone calling it 'experimental' and 'future facing' as if mainstream-ish artists like Grimes, FKA Twigs, Charli XCX, and most blatantly Arca, weren't using these sounds, textures and unconventional song structures 5-10 years ago. I can't help but feel that these critics are just dazzled by her 'exoticness' (for lack of a better word) as a non-english speaker? Or that they are giving her the benefit of the doubt because they aren't familiar with her language or 'culture'. I really believe if this had been an english album by an american singer it would never have gotten this reception. Very good point, I have also heard strains of this very same thing in recent years. It's bang on trend, a trend follower, not a trend setter. But hype has a lot to answer for. Very suspicious that critic after critic are saying roughly the same things, like they've been given a party line. Yes, I feel like critics have been subtely trying to coney the message that non-English artists are so much more supreme and cultured than us, even though they're just making the same topics and beats, just with words you don't understand. Personally, I've usually found a lot of their English language lyrics to be far better (and that's with translations). I also don't believe for a moment that all these critics are fluent in Spanish or are even provided with translations. I think a lot of them are judging this off feeling more than actual lyrical content. If they actually listened to the words she's saying, the outrageously bad and tawdry imagery in Hentai would be called out as would that jaw-dropping "crashed, Lady Di" moment in Cuuuuute. We have a tendency to hear romance languages like Spanish and think "I don't know what you're saying, but it sounds gorgeous..." without ever considering that they could be just as normal as us and are saying something totally ordinary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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