Bella Hadid: Muslim suffering deserves same backlash as Ukraine

[Bambino 24,321]

11 minutes ago, NCgaga said:

She isn’t wrong. I just don’t want this to be a thing where people stop caring about Ukraine because some celebrity said “what about these people, and what about these people.” Whataboutism can be very counterproductive. There has to be a way to make sure we stop glossing over all injustices. 

I just don't see why it's an issue to think of the Ukraine situation as a starting point to expose the US/Western hypocrisy when dealing with issues. 

[Chic 20,830]

Just now, Bambino said:

I get where you're coming from but when the West is an essential reason of most of the miseries in the Middle East, actually they do have to care and talk about it.

Correction: the older adults who voted to put the people in office that made these decisions before we were born have an obligation to care and talk about it. The average young American? Nah

[HausOfAntonio 8,021]

35 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said:

She’s not wrong at all but this may not be the best time to bring this up? Because we know mosh people (sadly) can’t focus on two things at once without fumbling one of them. 

I think its a crucial time to bring this up tbh… it highlights our bias in a way we wouldn’t see as easily in other times. 

[Bambino 24,321]

1 minute ago, Chic said:

Correction: the older adults who voted to put the people in office that made these decisions before we were born have an obligation to care and talk about it. The average young American? Nah

You don't really spend time thinking about it like you said.

[Chic 20,830]

1 minute ago, Bambino said:

You don't really spend time thinking about it like you said.

No, because it really sucks to simultaneously be unable to do anything about it but also be shamed + blamed by merit of being an American. I feel bad, but me caring isn’t gonna save anyone. A lot of people don’t get how powerless some of us are.

[Chic 20,830]

6 minutes ago, HausOfAntonio said:

I think its a crucial time to bring this up tbh… it highlights our bias in a way we wouldn’t see as easily in other times. 

If anything, the bias is from the people who said nothing about Palestine until there were white people somewhere else being murdered to distract from, but that’s my opinion

[HausOfAntonio 8,021]

2 minutes ago, Chic said:

If anything, the bias is from the people who said nothing about Palestine until there were white people somewhere else being murdered to distract from, but that’s my opinion

Isn’t that the point though?

[Bambino 24,321]

10 minutes ago, Chic said:

If anything, the bias is from the people who said nothing about Palestine until there were white people somewhere else being murdered to distract from, but that’s my opinion

But that's the point! I mean it only took the world like a couple of days to suggest sanctions on Russia while the Palestinians have been screaming for help and demanding sanctions on Israel for decades but nobody listened.

[alsemanche 95,429]

19 minutes ago, Bambino said:

But that's the point! I mean it only took the world like a couple of days to suggest sanctions on Russia while the Palestinians have been screaming for help and demanding sanctions on Israel for decades but nobody listened.

It goes even further than that because some of the things the West is doing rn are the exact same thing that have been denied for Palestine and Palestinians, from boycotts to accepting refugees easily. Even the way Ukrainians are being portrayed as brave heroes for carrying firearms and fighting is the exact opposite of how Palestinians are portrayed (as terrorists) when they try to resist (often in much more rudimentary ways). It 100% is the right time to point out this hypocrisy. 

[River 121,567]

The majority of the people in the world sees Israel as "Ukraine" and Palestine as "Russia" in the conflict and here lies the biggest problem.

 

[elijahfan 26,943]

1 hour ago, ALGAYDO said:

She’s not wrong at all but this may not be the best time to bring this up? Because we know mosh people (sadly) can’t focus on two things at once without fumbling one of them. 

My thoughts... She's making good and valid points, but I think this whole current situation possibly enabling a WWIII and the nuclear threat being thrown around is what is making people react. While every conflict and injustice in the world should be looked at, I can't help but feel like there's a bit of a priority here. It would be great to rid the world of pain and injustice, but right now this is about preventing one man from causing the end of humanity... Not to sound too dramatic, but yay.

[Bat 6,162]

Okay but then also talk about the war in Yemen, Ethiopia, Syria. Oh and lets not forget the Ughurs in China, and while your at it lets talk about the oppression in North Korea as well. And if you really wanna have a go at it include the forced workers/modern slaves required to make your cheap fast fashion clothes and Apple products..

[gothicdream 39,640]

She makes a very valid point. Obviously Western Islamophobia very much contributes to the comparative lack of attention to Palestine.

I can only speak as someone from the US, and I in no way claim to be an expert on any of this. But anecdotally, I think the key difference specifically with Ukraine and Palestine, is government support (or lack thereof). The US government is supporting Ukraine, and I think it makes Americans feel like we can make a difference, too. But despite the public support we've seen here to Free Palestine, the US government refuses to turn its back on Israel. Our politicians attempt to banish anyone among their ranks who would take a Pro-Palestine position (just look at how Ilhan Omar has been treated). It becomes incredibly disheartening to scream into the void and see absolutely no support or action from our politicians. And it breeds apathy.

I know that doesn't mean we should stop trying; quite oppositely, it means we need to try harder and be louder about Palestine. But anecdotally, I think the average American feels more empowerment to help in Ukraine, and that is a contributing factor to why it receives more attention. I welcome any correction to anything I've said if I'm misguided.

[Guillaume Hamon 6,765]

10 hours ago, elijahfan said:

While every conflict and injustice in the world should be looked at, I can't help but feel like there's a bit of a priority here.

Valid point but since it never seems to be Palestine time to be placed on top of the priority list, they try at every time. After all these decades they know they better do so.

It's like gay wedding, if we would have waited for the right time it would still not exist cause there always were a more important issue to deal with.

[Starmie25 20,751]

I sometimes do feel like WW3 has been already happening, just that it only receives a certain type of spotlight - Palestine, Syria, Afghanistan, Ukraine now