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JohnnyVersace 9,023 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 hours ago, CameltoeKween said: Kim being trans doesn't excuse her from being associated with Dr Luke, but it does add nuance to the situation. Do you think it was easy for Kim to get a record deal, or to get to the point she's at now as a trans woman? Have you considered that maybe she signed whatever deal she could get, because record deals are hard enough to obtain as a cisgender woman? There are so many people working with Dr Luke currently but Kim is ALWAYS the sacrificial lamb and I find it extremely troubling. Why does Doja get the benefit of doubt, but Kim is hung out to dry because of one badly worded response to a question about him years ago? Doja is cis, much more popular, and has less to lose by denouncing Dr Luke. Kim could lose everything overnight and her haters remind her of that every day. We celebrate rags to riches stories of queer and trans people all the time. We snap our fingers and YAAASSS to storylines in tv shows like Pose where trans women do whatever it takes to rise to the top, including associating with bad people. But for some reason Kim is always targeted. Feels a little TERFy to me, but that's just speculation Thank you for this - I truly can't imagine cancelling Kim over the Dr. Luke situation without even giving it some thought, and acknowledging that her trans-ness probably had a huge part to do with her decision. You can't deny his talent and skill, and tbh if she's using him to spread the queer agenda, and for more trans or queer artists to emerge, I'm ok with that. It's not favorable, but it's not cancel-worthy imo. It also gets a little sexist that people are constantly dragging, Doja, Sweetie and Kim for working with Dr. Luke, when as women, it's harder for them to be taken seriously and have a successful career as compared to male artists. I think back to both Ariana and Taylor talking about the need for women to constantly reinvent to feed the fans and the GP, and how taxing that is, physically and mentally. They're ripped apart their weight, beauty, talent, and sexuality constantly, while demanding more more more in tandem. Male artists don't deal with the same scrutiny - it's unfair, period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stvn 618 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 49 minutes ago, CameltoeKween said: It's not whataboutism. Nowhere did I say Doja or Saweetie were worse. And the situation between Doja and Kim is definitely not the same - Doja is a cisgender American woman with a massive built-in fanbase and several Top Ten hits. Kim is trans, European still trying to break out in the American market, with a much smaller fanbase and a dedicated army who pop up in anything and everything written about her to denounce her and bring up Luke. Doja can afford to talk sh*t about Luke or make any statement she chooses. Kim? Not so much. Which was my point in my original comment... Kim could lose everything with one small misstep or comment against Luke. It's not as easy as everyone seems to think. My point is, if you're going to name and shame those who work with Luke, name them all. Not just the trans one. You keep on changing the subject when this is about Kim's own trashy decisions. Whatev Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weed 73,865 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 3 hours ago, CameltoeKween said: Kim being trans doesn't excuse her from being associated with Dr Luke, but it does add nuance to the situation. Do you think it was easy for Kim to get a record deal, or to get to the point she's at now as a trans woman? Have you considered that maybe she signed whatever deal she could get, because record deals are hard enough to obtain as a cisgender woman? There are so many people working with Dr Luke currently but Kim is ALWAYS the sacrificial lamb and I find it extremely troubling. Why does Doja get the benefit of doubt, but Kim is hung out to dry because of one badly worded response to a question about him years ago? Doja is cis, much more popular, and has less to lose by denouncing Dr Luke. Kim could lose everything overnight and her haters remind her of that every day. We celebrate rags to riches stories of queer and trans people all the time. We snap our fingers and YAAASSS to storylines in tv shows like Pose where trans women do whatever it takes to rise to the top, including associating with bad people. But for some reason Kim is always targeted. Feels a little TERFy to me, but that's just speculation Wow bich you SPILLED! Love it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatography 10,186 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 4 hours ago, CameltoeKween said: Kim being trans doesn't excuse her from being associated with Dr Luke, but it does add nuance to the situation. Do you think it was easy for Kim to get a record deal, or to get to the point she's at now as a trans woman? Have you considered that maybe she signed whatever deal she could get, because record deals are hard enough to obtain as a cisgender woman? There are so many people working with Dr Luke currently but Kim is ALWAYS the sacrificial lamb and I find it extremely troubling. Why does Doja get the benefit of doubt, but Kim is hung out to dry because of one badly worded response to a question about him years ago? Doja is cis, much more popular, and has less to lose by denouncing Dr Luke. Kim could lose everything overnight and her haters remind her of that every day. We celebrate rags to riches stories of queer and trans people all the time. We snap our fingers and YAAASSS to storylines in tv shows like Pose where trans women do whatever it takes to rise to the top, including associating with bad people. But for some reason Kim is always targeted. Feels a little TERFy to me, but that's just speculation i honestly did not think of it at all this way, thank you for writing this out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussOfYonce 3,657 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 5 hours ago, CameltoeKween said: Kim being trans doesn't excuse her from being associated with Dr Luke, but it does add nuance to the situation. Do you think it was easy for Kim to get a record deal, or to get to the point she's at now as a trans woman? Have you considered that maybe she signed whatever deal she could get, because record deals are hard enough to obtain as a cisgender woman? There are so many people working with Dr Luke currently but Kim is ALWAYS the sacrificial lamb and I find it extremely troubling. Why does Doja get the benefit of doubt, but Kim is hung out to dry because of one badly worded response to a question about him years ago? Doja is cis, much more popular, and has less to lose by denouncing Dr Luke. Kim could lose everything overnight and her haters remind her of that every day. We celebrate rags to riches stories of queer and trans people all the time. We snap our fingers and YAAASSS to storylines in tv shows like Pose where trans women do whatever it takes to rise to the top, including associating with bad people. But for some reason Kim is always targeted. Feels a little TERFy to me, but that's just speculation i def feel like the threatment of kim petras is undeserved but i personally don't feel like doja is a dr luke supporter due to openly denouncing him, and not to mention she was like 17 when she signed her record deal + it was before the kesha allegations also yeah its TERFy, but honestly nothing surprises me anymore on GGD, not racism, not homophobia, not transphobia ✨ puthy tight, puthy clean, puthy fresh ✨ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicaSkas 23,130 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 7 hours ago, holy scheisse said: I dont get the reference but serve/werk/etc I suppose it means greatest of all time throater Do YOU own the 4' by 6' Perfect Illusion promo Poster? Will pay you for it. Pic: http://i.imgur.com/UWuzumk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremiahsaint1000 487 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 11 hours ago, nightadieu said: The song is called Throat Goat on TikTok https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMLNV99nV/ i think it could be interpreted as lady gaga makes people gag with how sickening she is or shes saying that her throat/throat game is the GOAT just like lady gaga is the GREATEST OF ALL TIME. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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