ajmsamuel 1,530 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 19 minutes ago, Meat said: She has always been a little monster. Her cover of MTN is amazing! where is it kindest regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaplayer315 14,060 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Ok Dr Luke supporter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HausOfAntonio 8,021 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 36 minutes ago, CameltoeKween said: Love how trans pop singer Kim Petras is held to a higher standard on GagaDaily than Ivermectin-promoting, anti-vaxx Joe Rogan (and his supporters) Someone’s transness or lack thereof doesn’t excuse them from working with a rapist… and the conversation isn’t about Joe Rogan anyway. He can and deserves to be condemned for other things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameltoe Chariot 15,215 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Just now, HausOfAntonio said: Someone’s transness or lack thereof doesn’t excuse them from working with a rapist… and the conversation isn’t about Joe Rogan anyway. He can and deserves to be condemned for other things. Kim being trans doesn't excuse her from being associated with Dr Luke, but it does add nuance to the situation. Do you think it was easy for Kim to get a record deal, or to get to the point she's at now as a trans woman? Have you considered that maybe she signed whatever deal she could get, because record deals are hard enough to obtain as a cisgender woman? There are so many people working with Dr Luke currently but Kim is ALWAYS the sacrificial lamb and I find it extremely troubling. Why does Doja get the benefit of doubt, but Kim is hung out to dry because of one badly worded response to a question about him years ago? Doja is cis, much more popular, and has less to lose by denouncing Dr Luke. Kim could lose everything overnight and her haters remind her of that every day. We celebrate rags to riches stories of queer and trans people all the time. We snap our fingers and YAAASSS to storylines in tv shows like Pose where trans women do whatever it takes to rise to the top, including associating with bad people. But for some reason Kim is always targeted. Feels a little TERFy to me, but that's just speculation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat 18,962 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 44 minutes ago, ajmsamuel said: where is it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HausOfAntonio 8,021 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, CameltoeKween said: Kim being trans doesn't excuse her from being associated with Dr Luke, but it does add nuance to the situation. Do you think it was easy for Kim to get a record deal, or to get to the point she's at now as a trans woman? Have you considered that maybe she signed whatever deal she could get, because record deals are hard enough to obtain as a cisgender woman? There are so many people working with Dr Luke currently but Kim is ALWAYS the sacrificial lamb and I find it extremely troubling. Why does Doja get the benefit of doubt, but Kim is hung out to dry because of one badly worded response to a question about him years ago? Doja is cis, much more popular, and has less to lose by denouncing Dr Luke. Kim could lose everything overnight and her haters remind her of that every day. We celebrate rags to riches stories of queer and trans people all the time. We snap our fingers and YAAASSS to storylines in tv shows like Pose where trans women do whatever it takes to rise to the top, including associating with bad people. But for some reason Kim is always targeted. Feels a little TERFy to me, but that's just speculation No one gets the benefit of the doubt for me. If she made a deal with a rapist then its her own fault, I truly don’t care about her condition. That rings true for everyone. And I’m always the first person to defend trans people above everything else, but I’ll call a spade a spade here. I understand it adds nuance but it doesn’t excuse her. As it doesn’t excuse ANYONE else that still works with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelusionalGaga 29,580 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Her getting signed seems to be the worst thing to happen to her. Her music was top notch up until this era. FSN was boring af, Coconuts and Throat Goat are both trying too hard to create a moment on Tiktok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat 18,962 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, DelusionalGaga said: Her getting signed seems to be the worst thing to happen to her. Her music was top notch up until this era. FSN was boring af, Coconuts and Throat Goat are both trying too hard to create a moment on Tiktok. Coconuts is a great song now come on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameltoe Chariot 15,215 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 19 minutes ago, HausOfAntonio said: No one gets the benefit of the doubt for me. If she made a deal with a rapist then its her own fault, I truly don’t care about her condition. That rings true for everyone. And I’m always the first person to defend trans people above everything else, but I’ll call a spade a spade here. I understand it adds nuance but it doesn’t excuse her. As it doesn’t excuse ANYONE else that still works with him. Can I ask why you think there are never any threads about Doja Cat or Saweetie, if it has nothing to do with her transness then? Why haven't you named those other two cis performers, even in this reply, if you have such strong feelings towards those who work with Dr Luke? I remember a co-worker once popping off about Kim working with Dr Luke, and she finished her rant with "If you want to be one of us, then you need to stand with us!" and that.... said everything to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUCARTPOP 5,924 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Undrop & keep it unreleased! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stvn 618 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 55 minutes ago, CameltoeKween said: Can I ask why you think there are never any threads about Doja Cat or Saweetie, if it has nothing to do with her transness then? Why haven't you named those other two cis performers, even in this reply, if you have such strong feelings towards those who work with Dr Luke? I remember a co-worker once popping off about Kim working with Dr Luke, and she finished her rant with "If you want to be one of us, then you need to stand with us!" and that.... said everything to me Your argument doesn't make any sense and is just one big whataboutism fallacy. Kim can be held responsible for what she has said (basically calling Kesha a liar). She signed with him very recently. Doja signed with him way before the Kesha allegations and has since been shady to him in interviews. So the situations are not the same. But none of that changes the fact that you are giving her a pass by trying to bring up people who you think are "worse" and whether or not they are that's not an actual argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HausOfAntonio 8,021 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 59 minutes ago, CameltoeKween said: Can I ask why you think there are never any threads about Doja Cat or Saweetie, if it has nothing to do with her transness then? Why haven't you named those other two cis performers, even in this reply, if you have such strong feelings towards those who work with Dr Luke? I remember a co-worker once popping off about Kim working with Dr Luke, and she finished her rant with "If you want to be one of us, then you need to stand with us!" and that.... said everything to me I do name them, I don’t support them and don’t stream their music. I haven’t mentioned them because they are not a part of the content posted on this thread… What your co-worker said was disgusting, though. I completely understand what you mean with the TERFiness of implications that this topic arouses, but I come from a completely different place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndiGaga 6,714 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 She looks awful in this TikTok (Lover her) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameltoe Chariot 15,215 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 44 minutes ago, stvn said: Your argument doesn't make any sense and is just one big whataboutism fallacy. Kim can be held responsible for what she has said (basically calling Kesha a liar). She signed with him very recently. Doja signed with him way before the Kesha allegations and has since been shady to him in interviews. So the situations are not the same. But none of that changes the fact that you are giving her a pass by trying to bring up people who you think are "worse" and whether or not they are that's not an actual argument. It's not whataboutism. Nowhere did I say Doja or Saweetie were worse. And the situation between Doja and Kim is definitely not the same - Doja is a cisgender American woman with a massive built-in fanbase and several Top Ten hits. Kim is trans, European still trying to break out in the American market, with a much smaller fanbase and a dedicated army who pop up in anything and everything written about her to denounce her and bring up Luke. Doja can afford to talk sh*t about Luke or make any statement she chooses. Kim? Not so much. Which was my point in my original comment... Kim could lose everything with one small misstep or comment against Luke. It's not as easy as everyone seems to think. My point is, if you're going to name and shame those who work with Luke, name them all. Not just the trans one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmsamuel 1,530 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 well i like her music and her i dont support kesha assualt period kindest regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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