flyaway 15,350 Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 7 hours ago, RAMROD said: Gaga never involved in giving permission, it was Fernando Garibay. He was being greedy and let M uses that song, even if that is for dissing Gaga. Betraying Gaga's trust in doing so. So if any of you wondering why Gaga never work with Garibay anymore, this is why. He is one of those trash that Gaga had to clean up before, and during ARTPOP era starts Well, that explains everything. It was kinda shady as well. Good thing is that she didn't let that affect her Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enissa11 2,984 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 14 hours ago, AJRocketMan said: What exactly do you mean by this? The part about her “approach” is especially confusing because this is very vague. there' always something that turns me off about her work, for example, ray of light that's my favourite album from her, i still don't like how in some songs it turn almost like a spiritual coaching thing, it's more about the aesthetics of the kabbalah and the image more than something rooted from a deep place, also sometimes i feel like she does things more to drive attention for herself rather than for the artistic statement or the message, for example, the Britney kiss, felt so staged and not genuine at all, also it served to fetichize lesbian relationships, for the hotness of it rather than something real. a lot of examples like this, but i respect her a lot and she did a lot of genuine good things too. 15 hours ago, Tripdastati0n said: Literally everyone on earth was saying she copied Madonna hard core it was a hot topic. radios were playing the song side by side comparing how similar they sound. because they both were already pitted against each other, people were looking for whatever reach to try to compare them and called her copycat, with BTW they had the perfect excuse to latch on to, and the only thing Madonna did was used it to her advantage 14 hours ago, Tripdastati0n said: she actually she even paid a ton of compliments to her even in that same interview. you can't read between lines what she said? she was paying compliments because how intelligently she references her, and reducing her to a mere product of he influence, the compliments were quite masked, and then degrade her efford calling it reductive, BTW is not reductive and let alone a a rip off of EY, they just sound similar because they share the same chord progression, just as similar to a bunch of other songs from the 70's and 80's, but they compared it to EY because it was the first quck reference they could come up with. The ironic thing is that the chord progression never touched the mainstream again for like 20 years so gaga was actually bringing somethin new to the table Mad Architect of Light Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBadRomancer 949 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 no one has forgotten lmao still waiting for her to push her up against a wall and call her a piece of **** Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus 4,485 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 On 1/5/2022 at 2:23 PM, Nemo said: I've not forgiven her, because she's not sorry. But, I've (mostly) moved on. Same. Imo Madonna has never and will never like Gaga and no fake impromptu "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer." photo shoot on some crumpled paper is going to change my mind. -𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐅𝐀𝐌𝐄 𝐄𝐍𝐈𝐆𝐌𝐀™ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zino 173 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 I dont know, did Madonna forgive Gaga for saying such disrespectul and untrue things about her here? sorry, but to me this was 10x worse than the whole "reductive" interview, and I hate how this fanbase conveniently pretends it never happened just to try paint gaga as a saint in this story and madonna as the ugly evil witch, BOTH said bullsh!t and acted petty about each other Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyaway 15,350 Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, zino said: I dont know, did Madonna forgive Gaga for saying such disrespectul and untrue things about her here? sorry, but to me this was 10x worse than the whole "reductive" interview, and I hate how this fanbase conveniently pretends it never happened just to try paint gaga as a saint in this story and madonna as the ugly evil witch, BOTH said bullsh!t and acted petty about each other I don't think she disrespected Madonna in any way here. She was just fed up with people comparing her work once again to Madonna's. People saying she copied Papa don't preach to write Perfect Illusion. It must be tiring after 5 years of that bs. Maybe it didn't come the best way, but she's right about both being different artists. Gaga is a classical trained singer turned pop star, and Madonna is a dancer turned pop star. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizonadream777 184 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 On 1/6/2022 at 3:21 AM, agentprovocate said: has madge forgive gaga for copying her song without permission? It's not like madonna didn't rip off other artist. She's been to court and lost a few times also. You can't judge someone for doing something you have done yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentprovocate 151 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 58 minutes ago, Arizonadream777 said: It's not like madonna didn't rip off other artist. She's been to court and lost a few times also. You can't judge someone for doing something you have done yourself. Stealing and sampling is a big difference, but i agree you are right but gaga should sample it instead of just releasing it without pointing out the similarities to express yourself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chlorine 47,975 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 9 hours ago, zino said: I dont know, did Madonna forgive Gaga for saying such disrespectul and untrue things about her here? sorry, but to me this was 10x worse than the whole "reductive" interview, and I hate how this fanbase conveniently pretends it never happened just to try paint gaga as a saint in this story and madonna as the ugly evil witch, BOTH said bullsh!t and acted petty about each other Did this strike a nerve? Lady Gaga was often called “Madonna with talent” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arloway 147 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Even though I was only 10ish when BTW released and they had the 'feud', I always found it kinda childish to engage too much in it. The media loves to pit celebs, especially female celebs, against each other. And sometimes the celebs themselves would even ride along with the momentum for publicity. I feel the same for the Katy vs Gaga feud. It never bothers me. The only act that I found not acceptable is the chainsmokers(specifically that Drew guy). Their attacks on Gaga were just so unhinged and so unnecessary. Like it's your freedom to dislike other artists' works but what's the point ripping their dead relatives and trauma? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuffsAhoy 7,433 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 17 hours ago, zino said: I dont know, did Madonna forgive Gaga for saying such disrespectul and untrue things about her here? sorry, but to me this was 10x worse than the whole "reductive" interview, and I hate how this fanbase conveniently pretends it never happened just to try paint gaga as a saint in this story and madonna as the ugly evil witch, BOTH said bullsh!t and acted petty about each other Madge stans like you give the rest of us a bad rap You remind me that it's such a wonderful thing to love. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zino 173 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 16 hours ago, flyaway said: I don't think she disrespected Madonna in any way here. She was just fed up with people comparing her work once again to Madonna's. People saying she copied Papa don't preach to write Perfect Illusion. It must be tiring after 5 years of that bs. Maybe it didn't come the best way, but she's right about both being different artists. Gaga is a classical trained singer turned pop star, and Madonna is a dancer turned pop star. I think it's what the other used said above me: "you can't read between lines what she said? she was paying compliments because how intelligently she references her, and reducing her to a mere product." she implied that Madonna was some type of manufactured dumb blonde popstar who doesnt't write, produce or play instruments just to try to uplift herself, when she, being a longtime madonna fan, knew damn well that was NOT true If she just said like "I have a better voice than her" and let go, I would be ok, but trying to question Madonna in things that Madonna is more recognized and acclaimed than her like songwriting, was VERY questionable to say the least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripdastati0n 26 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 On 1/6/2022 at 2:46 AM, insight said: whoa ive never seen this before let me thread it on atrl lmao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
androiduser 7,438 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 there was nothing for me to forgive. It was one word... no worse than "green wigs and mechanical horses", which was more delusional to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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