Gagas lil monster 2,424 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 I think the notion that you have to listen to music based off of an artists race is strange. While, not listening to an artist because of their race is, undeniably, racist, simply not listening to an artist because their music doesn't appeal to you is not in anyway. I think it becomes dangerous to label critisism of the music as "racist" or it simply not being your taste as "racist". I'd just like to add that this is coming from a person who does listen to many artists of many ethnicities. So, to answer your question, as long as someones not purposely avoiding an artist because of race, it is not racist With Peace and love Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsemanche 87,264 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Well there's a difference between someone actively avoiding artists who aren't why and coincidentally listening to mostly white artists. If someone makes sure they only listen to white artists, that's definitely a red flag. But if someone's playlist just happens to be full of white artists then who cares? Personally, I listen to more white artists but it just happens to be that way. I never actively seek to avoid artists who aren't white, and some of my favorite artists (FKA Twigs, Frank Ocean...) are not white. I don't think that makes anyone racist because I (and others like me) am not looking at an artist's race when I discover them, and more often than not, I don't even know what they look like or where they're from upon first listen. Soft, soothing, and succulent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lona Delery 7,177 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 it depends on your reason i guess? with the genres i like, there are just less black artists than white artists like... i couldnt think of a single POC artist who is similar to current Lana/Weyes Blood/Joan Baez for example which is what im vibing with a lot rn, but im open for recommendations Sometimes it feels like I've got a war in my mind, I wanna get off but I keep riding the ride Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A MESS 3,938 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 it's a systemic thing more than a single person issue, but nowadays rap / RnB / all that world (sorry I know nothing about that genre lol) is very en vogue so it is almost impossible to not like music from BIPOC - because the genre itself is strongly linked to Black American identity and culture; but people can not like the genre altogether and then, let's be honest about it, it gets more difficult to listen to soppy pop and find black people, because every genre has its own aesthetic stereotypes and codes and pop is still dominated by white, blonde, skinny women, and people go with the expected. Of course, if you like only a certain genre, I find it more possible to close yourself to a part of the world - like, I remember my edgy emo years when I obsessively listened to emo screamo and all that jazz and--- that was a very white scene. No surprise that half the people I listened to ended up being exposed as some shade of **** Also, more "aged" music can result in a lot of white people listening to white people, because music history has been touched by racism too - like, with grunge: Tina Bell, a black woman, was one of the true founder of the genre, but up until last year no one talked about her in grunge-related articles, even if Kurt Cobain himself was a roadie for her band! And that's true for all "alternative" music imho: the scenes were whitewashed and a lot of bipoc contributors are forgotten. Jazz music? That's as black as it gets. Only classical music is predominantly white because - well. I could go on on this rant forever - I think it's my fever going up lol - but the point is, casual listeners can accidentally exclude BIPOC from their music catalogue because of contingency / ignorance (if they're not WILLINGLY doing it), but if you're interested in a specific genre you will in a way or another find bipoc, even if they're not universally acclaimed, and discover that they were the true zeitgeist setters for that music! LGBTQIA2+ BIPOC artists have the "luck" of being recognised nowadays and loved by the community, so they're to be excluded by my previous line of thought, I think - racism from the GP is still happening, even queerphobia, but inside the community they're seen, they're expanding the rainbow to colours long forgotten, they bring new perspective, they decolonise music, they bring in new words and languages, and I love that for us! Генерал Марина Абрамовић Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 2 hours ago, ARTVENUS said: Aaliyah, Sade, Rob zombie "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty like sodium 729 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 8 hours ago, Bleachella said: most artists are white... huh????????????????????????? Yes, percentage wise you will notice that like with all industries due to systemic discrimination the results will probably be at least 50% white artists making up the industry, if not more. Don't blame me for society's flaws In fact, if you look at this report for the UK, 75% of workers in the music industry here are claimed to be white: https://www.ukmusic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/UK_Music_Diversity_Report_2020.pdf. Also, I'm talking exclusively about the types of artists who live in Western societies and have the funding to become chart blockbusters, because those are likely to be the musicians most people of the GP will listen to (I'm sure there are plenty of women in Africa and Asia who could actually be just as successful as Lady Gaga, but the reality is that she is from the US so she has had a lot more opportunities than them). Also, if you google "biggest pop stars of 2020", 8 out of 10 of the results are white people (yes, even Dua Lipa and Ariana Grande are white, surprise surprise): https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=AOaemvKPZS0TsEl7WSeX28YkkIJSnYajJg:1635335217470&q=Biggest+pop+stars+2020&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAOOQMRJLykxPTy0uUSjIL1AoLkksKlYwMjAyiDLIyC9XyE3Mq1QozsxLTwUKJxalAhUlK-TnKZRkpCokZebkJOUnFqUoJGckFpUUn2Lk1U_XNzRMqkirLM5OTofxk81NKwvSy4HyXPq5-gaW6dkplSanGDlBnJQcUzNzqISJuUV8fC6UY1ZuVJxnClVlmlsSXwg3vtzCKLnYAKiQGyRnaFCUZmBe-YtRzAmrPxpYGBex4pC7xSbJcGMml2mYeEzg_OvJdbt0vuwKqvnCzvra9zwA1HafBBoBAAA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwip4ua1wurzAhUlnVwKHa4VBLMQ4qYDegQIIRAJ&biw=1680&bih=847&dpr=2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NATAH 31,306 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 10 hours ago, NicoB said: MAGA queen mother, what must i do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SummerBoy223 180 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 No, it’s not 1876…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 I listen to indian songs, arabic, european, american, i dont care who u are how u look like if the song is good I will listen to it. But there are some white people mostly in the US, who are into bands that are white, singers that are white, and can't get into anything with soul, Ive never seen it as a red flag per say, to me it would be a red flag if all the movies they watch only has white people in it, like how weird. But some white people just love rock n roll, and a lot of them are white, or they just have that white vibe, only like the beach boys, for rap they only like Beastie Boys. I can't get into that too much personally, does it make me racist??? I don't like rappers who are white, except Eminem, and it's not about them being white, their voices are just bad, and the beats they pick are meh, even Eminem he's one of those rappers who picked such goofy beats & needed Dre to help him out a little bit. They just don't have that spirit. Same for soul and blues, I mean to be honest with you all, the only best singers ever in the world happen to be black, they have soul in them, a lot of it, they just sing so well, everyone tries to recreate it, but for them it's just natural it comes naturally. Every genre in music mostly created by black people, jazz, rock n roll, rnb, rap, and i love all of that. There would be nothing interesting without them, thats why I think I happen to mostly love artists who happen to be black. Marvin Gaye, Sam Cooke, Michael Jackson, James Brown, Prince, Ella Fitzgerald, I mean these were monster talents, MONSTERS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TasteLikeWhiskey 1,561 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Most of the comments on this thread (and this type of thread) is a Red Flag to me I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepsami 17,522 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 My most listened to POC is Azealia Banks Not ideal representation but we all know she has monstrous talent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnWayne92 2,082 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Good god…the beauty of music is, it’s a voice, and until you put a face to the voice, it has no color. This thread is ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
artlover 93 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Yes it definitely is It does not make you a RACIST trumpy person per se but what are your standards which have not allowed people of color to enter? Your BEAUTY standards, your ART standards... they are all fruit of colonization. Why are your references so white? Have you given them a chance without labeling them urban or R&B other than music? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bella Goth 1,144 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 is it a red flag if english speaker only watch foreign movies with english dub? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevstar4 207 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 That’s an awful way to assume someone is racist just because their music tastes don’t involve poc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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