Dave Chappelle defends JK Rowling, calls himself a TERF

[Andrea B 16,733]

Just now, HausOfAntonio said:

In what ways do you mean sex is a social construct? I’m asking respectfully btw. I thought sex was just chromosomal. 

I don't know how to explain it in english   if you want, you can read this article that basically explains what I'm saying (and more) 

My chromosomes, genitals, hormones, etc are 100% real but the categorization and terms were invented to try to understand and explain the human body(binary).

Spoiler

https://blogs.lshtm.ac.uk/depth/2020/03/16/biological-sex-is-social/

''Biological sex is a construct that helps our highly gendered society to categorise and label others.''

''To summarise, biological sex involves not only the material but also the social. The crucial point is that the idea of a strict and immutable binary is socially constructed. The concept of “biological sex” is not inevitable because we have bodies, it is a response to how we see those bodies and how, as a society, we want to divide them up into categories. So the whole argument about gender and sex binaries is not an argument about science – however much people want to present it as one – it is an argument about classification and how we as a society choose to label people. Biological sex is social as well as material: and that matters.''

 

[NCgaga 4,319]

He is correct about Sex, but incorrect about Gender. 

[ShayCristoforo 10,607]

1 hour ago, alsemanche said:

Yeah because it's so f*cking hard to be funny without being transphobic.  Totally hard and incredibly unavoidable.  Ffs. 

My point is that there are many jokes made about a number of topics. I’m sure some of your favorite comedians have made some problematic jokes, but we often accept them. Because that is what they do. They tell jokes to be taken with a grain of salt. 

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4 hours ago, ShayCristoforo said:

My point is that there are many jokes made about a number of topics. I’m sure some of your favorite comedians have made some problematic jokes, but we often accept them. Because that is what they do. They tell jokes to be taken with a grain of salt. 

I agree with you. The thing people often forget when hearing jokes that are directed at them is that Intention is always important thing. I don't care if some1 is making a joke at my expense as long I know its intention is to make people laugh and not just be malicious. That's ultimately up to an individual to decide whether it was ill intended or not but a lot of insecure ppl tend to automatically go on the defensive.

When it comes to political jokes like this it's just awkward for me though to hear or read tbh. I'm not the target of the joke so I'm not offended but its just weird of him to state some of his opinions like a fact for example "gender is fact". He's joking with a abit of a political agenda and it just ruins the fun for me personally. When joking about political ideas of your own you're gonna disconnect with part of your audience even just for that moment. I listen to a comedian for a laugh not to reinforce or validate there own views on the world. I think Political jokes can be funny but its a matter of how much they try and push their own view on you.

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The defense of him being a comedian, and saying all this in the name of comedy only goes so far. The fact of the matter is that jokes and comedy have profound effects, and shouldn't be dismissed or underestimated. 

And while I'm not saying that this is what's going on here, not everything a comedian says is a joke. They have the capacity to be sincere as well, both on- and off-stage

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Why does Gaga always unintentionally work with the most problematic people, I-

[Chromatislaps 34,834]

14 hours ago, CameltoeKween said:

Burn ha for these messy and problematic comments but also I'm fully slayed by "beyond p*ssy" 

Your "beyond pvssy" comment seems so appropriate with your username

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10 hours ago, NCgaga said:

He is correct about Sex, but incorrect about Gender. 

Dave Chapelle might not know that difference, which is unfortunate  However if he does, he is even more of a whole *ss mess

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15 hours ago, Queen Bitch said:

Dave Chappelle is sparking conversation about transphobia as he addresses his past comments about the trans community in his latest Netflix comedy special.

"The Closer," the sixth installment in the comedian's Netflix deal which he describes as "his last special for a minute," includes tongue-in-cheek jokes about race, the coronavirus pandemic and negotiating "the release of DaBaby" after the rapper's homophobic comments. However, Chappelle's comments on the transgender community, a topic for which he has received backlash for previously, are stirring up more feedback. 

Chappelle doubled down on transphobic jokes by weighing in on comments author J.K. Rowling made in December 2019. The "Harry Potter" author  conflated sex with gender and defended ideas suggesting that changing one's biological sex was a threat to her own gender identity.

"They canceled J.K. Rowling, my God," Chappelle says. "Effectually she said gender was a fact, the trans community got mad as (expletive), they started calling her a TERF.

"I'm Team TERF. I agree. I agree, man. Gender is a fact," he added.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2021/10/05/dave-chappelle-terf-defends-j-k-rowling-netflix-special/6002017001/

From the Daily Beast:

[...] Chappelle then tries to convince the audience—in the crowd and at home—that he’s never made any explicitly anti-transgender jokes, requesting that the audience “go back” and revisit his specials. He defends J.K. Rowling against being “canceled” over her transphobic remarks (which he deeply misrepresents), before saying, “I’m team TERF!”—the term for trans-exclusionary radical feminist, or feminists who are transphobic and do not believe trans women are women. 

“Gender is a fact,” he reasons. “Every human being in this room, every human being on earth, had to pass through the legs of a woman to be on earth. That is a fact. Now, I am not saying that to say trans women aren’t women, I am just saying that those pussies that they got… you know what I mean? I’m not saying it’s not p*ssy, but it’s Beyond P*ssy or Impossible P*ssy. It tastes like p*ssy, but that’s not quite what it is, is it? That’s not blood. That’s beet juice.” (Chappelle’s anti-trans jokes have often boiled down to human anatomy, which shows how unnuanced his views are on the subject.)

https://www.thedailybeast.com/dave-chappelle-says-hes-a-terf-and-is-quitting-lgbtq-jokes-in-netflixs-the-closer

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14 hours ago, KanyeWest said:

why can't trans people be proud of who they are? that's the main issue. you are trans because you transition to what you feel you should've been born as. but you are not the same as the ones who were born 'as'. it's not about being transphobic but i will be called a transphobic person most probably, well 100%, it's the fact that it's seen as hatred to say that trans people are trans people, there is nothing wrong with being trans... it's celebrated up until the point where u talk about trans people being trans people and u have to pretend they are "cis", but only transpeople can differentiate themselves from other categories, it's a very confusing ordeal. As for JK rowling she's a moron, her essay made zero sense and she made a fool of herself. I hope you guys understand what i'm saying. It's the fact u have to pretend that transpeople are not trans, they are cis, but then people diferentiate themselves from cis, but if you ever say you are trans, you are transphobic. But the same people who say they are proud of who they are but to me it seems you are not because you wanna remove everything that has to do with trans identity. It's a bit weird imo

You’re saying to first be a full woman you need a vag. That’s the issue. Trans people are proud. Trans women are proud women. Women are more than an anatomy. That’s called sex (which its complexities are a whole other complicated discussion).

 

who tf is pretending to be cis lmao girl you’re not trans so dont weigh in because this clearly isn’t your arena. This cis entitlement it takes to identify a trans person’s main “issue” for them 

[Ziggy 11,542]

11 hours ago, ShayCristoforo said:

My point is that there are many jokes made about a number of topics. I’m sure some of your favorite comedians have made some problematic jokes, but we often accept them. Because that is what they do. They tell jokes to be taken with a grain of salt. 

Yeaaaahhh but I’ll push back slightly because those jokes are often antiquated and dated and from their past. This is reactionary to the *current* moment and of trans people demanding to be considered with more dignity than they have. I think it’s a fine, but important distinction in this case

[Ziggy 11,542]

7 hours ago, YUJIfushiguro said:

I agree with you. The thing people often forget when hearing jokes that are directed at them is that Intention is always important thing. I don't care if some1 is making a joke at my expense as long I know its intention is to make people laugh and not just be malicious. That's ultimately up to an individual to decide whether it was ill intended or not but a lot of insecure ppl tend to automatically go on the defensive.

When it comes to political jokes like this it's just awkward for me though to hear or read tbh. I'm not the target of the joke so I'm not offended but its just weird of him to state some of his opinions like a fact for example "gender is fact". He's joking with a abit of a political agenda and it just ruins the fun for me personally. When joking about political ideas of your own you're gonna disconnect with part of your audience even just for that moment. I listen to a comedian for a laugh not to reinforce or validate there own views on the world. I think Political jokes can be funny but its a matter of how much they try and push their own view on you.

For me it’s that he’s out here defending cisgenderhood, essentially. His comedy very much is a commentary on how America and the world treats Black men so he wades into trans territory to defend the pillars of cisgenderhood. I think it’s a super important distinction to make because the intention behind both are very different. His comedy eviscerating white supremacy is a statement empowering a community and group. His comedy getting into transness is him gatekeeping from another. Both are reactionary but they come from different places of privilege imo that he refuses to acknowledge or at the very least doesnt mind pushing into for...unknown reasons.

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15 hours ago, KanyeWest said:

As for JK rowling she's a moron, her essay made zero sense and she made a fool of herself.

Well to be fair she was quite redneck acting way before this, which was the last nail in the coffin to her credibility as a writer and individual, which was already waning for years

[ItWasntLaauv 6,392]

Ms. Thing doesn’t know the difference between biological sex and gender expression, oof.

[SEANGT 5,185]

He just looks really stupid. I never liked him.