Lizzo says Justin Bieber is 'Prince of pop'

[Born2Gay 48]

4 minutes ago, GucciGa said:

to say she was anywhere near as innovative as Madonna is hilarious.

i agree there seems to be this new appreciation for britney now that didn’t exist even when she was at her peak. probably influenced by the whole free britney movement. 

but i’m curious about what it is madonna did that makes her so “innovative”. i see that thrown around a lot, but less often anything that supports it. 

[NewUsername 11,483]

It's actually just this:
King of Pop: MJ
Queen of Pop: Madonna
Princess of Pop: Britney

Those are like the 'original' names and I think we should 'keep' it like that, doesn't mean that other extremely talented and/or impactful artists aren't kings/queens/prince(s)(ses) of their own or like 'the new ones'.
 

It's like The Voice: Whitney, The Boss: Bruce Springsteen, these are almost 'official' nicknames.

[Dojo 19,372]

Just now, NewUsername said:

It's actually just this:
King of Pop: MJ
Queen of Pop: Madonna
Princess of Pop: Britney

Those are like the 'original' names and I think we should 'keep' it like that, doesn't mean that other extremely talented and/or impactful artists aren't kings/queens/prince(s)(ses) of their own or like 'the new ones'.
 

It's like The Voice: Whitney, The Boss: Bruce Springsteen, these are almost 'official' nicknames.

Yes and Prince of pop: Justin Bieber.

[ThisGuyTony 31,081]

Everybody has different pop queens and kings. It’s not that big of a deal. 

[Guest]

22 minutes ago, PartySick said:

Rhythm Nation, Control, If, Throb, Would You Mind, No Sleeep, Nasty, What Have You Done For Me Lately, and Black Cat are my favorites

I think those are also her hits

You’re missing one of the most iconic songs, Mister HeeHee 

This is the song that originally got me into Miss Janet. 

[NewUsername 11,483]

5 minutes ago, Born2Gay said:

i agree there seems to be this new appreciation for britney now that didn’t exist even when she was at her peak. probably influenced by the whole free britney movement. 

but i’m curious about what it is madonna did that makes her so “innovative”. i see that thrown around a lot, but less often anything that supports it. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_impact_of_Madonna

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, NewUsername said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_impact_of_Madonna

Wow, I didn’t even know there was a wiki for this. Lol

[PartySick 161,533]

5 minutes ago, Munchlax said:

You’re skipping the most iconic song, Mister HeeHee 

This is the song that originally for me into Janet. 

I also forgot this one

We love a gay icon

[Ziggy 12,003]

I def agree on rap. There’s SO many variables that it’s hard to put formal rankings like this in place. Now, pop is easier because it is literally meant to be homogenous, singular, and simple in its makeup

[weed 74,385]

Madonna and MJ will forever be the blueprints

[weed 74,385]

18 minutes ago, Born2Gay said:

but i’m curious about what it is madonna did that makes her so “innovative”. i see that thrown around a lot, but less often anything that supports it. 

She commanded, she didn’t follow orders. 

[Ziggy 12,003]

15 minutes ago, Born2Gay said:

i agree there seems to be this new appreciation for britney now that didn’t exist even when she was at her peak. probably influenced by the whole free britney movement. 

but i’m curious about what it is madonna did that makes her so “innovative”. i see that thrown around a lot, but less often anything that supports it. 

A great example is erotica. No commercial pop female was putting their sexuality on such a display in such an upfront manner before that. Sure, others set her up to do that, but she took that inch they gave her and took a yard. It’s stuff like that.

If you mean musically, well shes tried just about every genre in some capacity so there’s that lmao but if I look at Ray of Light or Confessions, she basically ushered dance music into the mainstream not unlike Ms. Gaga herself would decades later. Legacies are complicated. Would RoL have happened without someone like Björk releasing Homogenic only a year prior and bringing more “eastern” influence into her music? Would she have done it without someone else trying it? Or someone before them?

My point is one person’s actions beget another’s but in the case of Madonna, it’s important to acknowledge very much that she’s a commercial artist. Within the parameters of commercial pop, she was an innovator.

[Born2Gay 48]

6 minutes ago, NewUsername said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_impact_of_Madonna

a list of her accomplishments and memorable 'cultural' moments does not explain how she's "innovative." even the points listed on this wiki are things some celebrities before her were already known for.

[GucciGa 3,729]

25 minutes ago, Born2Gay said:

i agree there seems to be this new appreciation for britney now that didn’t exist even when she was at her peak. probably influenced by the whole free britney movement. 

but i’m curious about what it is madonna did that makes her so “innovative”. i see that thrown around a lot, but less often anything that supports it. 

Exactly. Nobody cared that much before the last year (besides her stans) Its so strange to see people just be sheep and jump on the bandwagon claiming she's the queen of pop. People can hate me all they want but at her peak Britney was a great dancer who looked like the perfect not too threatening pop star who lipsynced most of her performances bc she can't sing. AFAIK she didn't write her songs. I know she has been hampered by personal problems but either way she had her peak in the 90s. She is as famous for her personal problems as for her music. 

As for Madonna.. Somebody already posted a link. As much as I dislike Madge's attitude towards younger artists I will never deny her impact. Imo a lot of her hits are superior to Britney's (Toxic slaps though) 

 

[Lady Adga 8,664]

Madonna, sweetie...