littlepotter 76,610 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 I mean I know how obnoxious and tone deaf it was when people compared the beirut explosion to movies or whatever, it comes from a place of privilege, but then again they are just speaking from what they've personally seen. Like there's no harm in that. chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennywise 36,080 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Chic said: People like you sit here and get outraged at the smallest ****. There are Americans alive today whom are actively, directly complicit and responsible for the horrors of what is going on in Afghanistan and instead of you doing /anything/ to help the people affected by it, you capitalize off of the moral superiority you can suck from every situation like bone marrow. That is the epitome of privilege Yeah because you know everything about what I do and not, don't you? Funny that you're talking about Americans complicit for what has been happening. You are one. Every single one of you. The difference is that my country takes in the Afghan refugees running from what your country has done. So don't even try to tell me that I have privilege or that I somehow "capitalize off" of something YOU and every American have been capitalizing off of for two decades. It is also funny that you seem to think I get something out of this, considering this is an anonymous account on a ****ing Lady Gaga forum that is not linked to my personal life in the slightest. But hey, you're gonna use whatever rhetoric you see fit to deflect your own guilt to others, I guess. So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chic 20,830 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Just now, Pennywise said: Yeah because you know everything about what I do and not, don't you? Funny that you're talking about Americans complicit for what has been happening. You are one. Every single one of you. The difference is that my country takes in the Afghan refugees running from what your country has done. So don't even try to tell me that I have privilege or that I somehow "capitalize off" of something YOU and every American have been capitalizing off of for two decades. Individuals are not their countries. You are bloated with privilege yourself and blind to it. Fight the real enemy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennywise 36,080 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Chic said: Individuals are not their countries. You are bloated with privilege yourself and blind to it. Fight the real enemy. Oh this is very rich, coming from you. Find a mirror, please, and take a look at it, will you? I have to live in the Middle East atmosphere that your country created and that you supported by supporting your own politicians. This is me, fighting one of the many real enemies. So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 I don't think it's that bad. There is alot of not college educated people out there. Literally millions and most of those people are not sitting behind a computer for hours of the day reading news stories or world events. They are busy with two or three jobs or raising their kids. News papers are usually written at a 9th - 10th grade level and Americans are very visual. But the news on TV and twitter are probably dumbed down even lower. It is terrible and a huge shame that it has to be explained this way, but I don't think it's terrible that it was explained this way. It's more important that a message of desperation is received by the American audience. There is more privilege in making fun of this. Not every American is college educated or super wealthy. They are just trying to survive in their own way. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chic 20,830 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Pennywise said: Oh this is very rich, coming from you. Find a mirror, please, and take a look at it, will you? I have to live in the Middle East atmosphere that your country created and that you supported by supporting your own politicians. This is me, fighting one of the many real enemies. Blaming me for what politicians decided on before I was even born is so rich I could mistake it for a chocolate cake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFRatwell 23,290 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 34 minutes ago, Pennywise said: I don't think Americans get to have opinions about this at all. You mean the American government. Last I checked American citizens have been robbed of their money to pay for this war for 20 years, and many have lost family who have died fighting overseas. Also there are a handful of us Americans with family from the Middle East, so “I don't care what an American thinks about the Middle East” is a vague statement. Also you know putting the blame on a bunch of 20 something year old lower to middle class Americans for being “complacent” and “benefitting from war” is a bunch of ****, we all know the only people who benefited from this war was the rich who had the power to make the decisions for the last 20 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Everyone can have opinions on this. The opinion police jumped out suddenly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFRatwell 23,290 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 You’re allowed to be pissed that the American government made situations worse in the Middle East, **** I am. But attacking people on a public forum for their nationality is low and shouldn’t be tolerated. After all this is a site dedicated to an American. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,648 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Peasants arguing online over foreign policy they had nothing to do with personally. Hilarious. Meanwhile the REAL enemy (the rich) have made their profits from 20 years at war. Fight the real enemy. *rips picture of Pope* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weed 78,884 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 that's sooo scary omg. the person falling off the flying plane... RIP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NichuuB 43,788 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, weed said: that's sooo scary omg. the person falling off the flying plane... RIP It really is like something out of this reality. It makes me so sad to see this, and I can't do anything. My country doesnt have an embassy there, nor there is a notice of any of our citizens there, so the government wont do anything to help Property of @Whale Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennywise 36,080 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 35 minutes ago, NFRatwell said: you know putting the blame on a bunch of 20 something year old lower to middle class Americans for being “complacent” and “benefitting from war” is a bunch of ****, we all know the only people who benefited from this war was the rich who had the power to make the decisions for the last 20 years. Lol have you seen what they called me? You don't get to have it both ways, sweeties. You can all get mad at me all you want, at the end of the day your country is not my responsibility, but yours. I know that "the rich" or "the politicians" are to blame, but if there is one thing the past two American elections have shown me, it is that the people are - mostly - just the same, so don't try to treat me as if I was born yesterday, thank you. So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFRatwell 23,290 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Pennywise said: Lol have you seen what they called me? You don't get to have it both ways, sweeties. You can all get mad at me all you want, at the end of the day your country is not my responsibility, but yours. I know that "the rich" or "the politicians" are to blame, but if there is one thing the past two American elections have shown me, it is that the people are - mostly - just the same, so don't try to treat me as if I was born yesterday, thank you. I have no idea what your argument is honesty. I don’t get to have what both ways? Also no one said my country was your responsibility. I just explained to you that you’re accusing 20 year olds of somehow being an enemy and supporters of a war torn Middle East. American citizens who have likely only voted in one presidential election and a couple of local elections that deal with things like how our roads should be filled. This war has been going on since I was 1, how the **** is it somehow my fault Again it’s also quite rich that you want to argue with us over this stuff on a forum dedicated to an American woman who has had a history of aligning herself with politicians such as Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Biden, who have all had a say in our country’s presence in the Middle East. If we’re the problem then surely she is too, so why would you spend your time supporting her? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsemanche 97,796 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Do Americans realize that the politicians THEY supported and voted for are responsible for this? Y'all willingly chose them and supported them, so yeah you don't get to preach over the situation in Afghanistan, especially not when the dominant American discourse is all about veterans' TrAuMa and other bullsh*t. 24 minutes ago, NFRatwell said: Again it’s also quite rich that you want to argue with us over this stuff on a forum dedicated to an American woman who has had a history of aligning herself with politicians such as Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Biden, who have all had a say in our country’s presence in the Middle East. If we’re the problem then surely she is too, so why would you spend your time supporting her? We've been critizing her politics for ages but those of you who idolize her keep acting like it's no big deal Soft, soothing, and succulent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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