VTV 12,382 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 47 minutes ago, Trixie Mattel said: A broken clock is right twice a day. Unless it's one of the digital ones where the time is just burned in the 24 hour format in which case a clock right once a day but y'all get what I means You've been playing CODM dont you The Lady and the Legend coming soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 10,722 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Linus Gaga said: what about her cooking her cat You’re equating boiling down an already deceased body of an animal for spiritual purposes to assaulting a *living woman*? This isn’t the take you think it is and just sounds like you either equate women’s worth to that of a dead animal OR are happy to toe tap the line of racism towards non-western forms of faith. These “cook her cat” jokes are so tired when she has other more legitimate points against that could be brought up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 10,722 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 1 hour ago, littlepotter said: It's not like people knew about the abusive thing and were like "oh ok, that's fine." If people knew it would have had backlash too obviously but it didn't blow up as much as this for many different factors. Not Azealia of all people coming in with the whataboutism Plenty of people knew in hip hop. Like I wouldn’t even consider myself part of the community and I knew that. It’s been known since it happened, people just moved on from it. Idk what the point is here? She’s making a legitimately good point about the nature of how “cancelling” works. Punches a woman in her whole face=culture moves on, homophobia=cancelled beyond belief. Even if we come to another conclusion, I think she brings up a good point that would do everyone well to consider since this isn’t the first time violence against women wasnt the straw breaking the camel’s back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburn 1,072 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 She is right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreu 37,216 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 1 hour ago, littlepotter said: It's not like people knew about the abusive thing and were like "oh ok, that's fine." If people knew it would have had backlash too obviously but it didn't blow up as much as this for many different factors. Not Azealia of all people coming in with the whataboutism Its not like it was a secret either and it wouldnt be the first time the industry looks past someones problematic behaviout to makr a quick buck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 74,130 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, Ziggy said: Punches a woman in her whole face=culture moves on, homophobia=cancelled beyond belief. You're doing the exact same thing as her. The point is you cannot "rank" injustices and struggles. Just because a situation got more attention than another it doesn't mean that culture in general is more accepting of violence against women than homophobia. It's not a damn competition! chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 10,722 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, littlepotter said: You're doing the exact same thing as her. The point is you cannot "rank" injustices and struggles. Just because a situation got more attention than another it doesn't mean that culture in general is more accepting of violence against women than homophobia. It's not a damn competition! I’m not saying it is? I’m saying that her point is that is there a double standard at play? That’s worth considering. She’s not saying one is worse than the other. She’s saying it’s a bizarre double standard to cancel someone for one awful thing and not another awful thing. The “ranking” you’re talking about is the exact thing she’s calling attention to here. To AB, the violence against Black women is seemingly always the “lower” issue (which there is evidence to back up her claim tbh) and so she’s saying let’s talk about that and fix it. Her whole post is literally the opposite of what you’re saying and is actively speaking out *against* that. Youre saying that the culture not addressing one but addressing the other doesn’t mean anything? At the very least, it’s worth entertaining the notion to make sure that we are not devaluing women in the culture at large. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linus Gaga 7,932 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 46 minutes ago, Ziggy said: You’re equating boiling down an already deceased body of an animal for spiritual purposes to assaulting a *living woman*? This isn’t the take you think it is and just sounds like you either equate women’s worth to that of a dead animal OR are happy to toe tap the line of racism towards non-western forms of faith. These “cook her cat” jokes are so tired when she has other more legitimate points against that could be brought up okay, but you are putting words in my mouth Hit me a message and say hi ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uo111 5,246 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 47 minutes ago, Ziggy said: Plenty of people knew in hip hop. Like I wouldn’t even consider myself part of the community and I knew that. It’s been known since it happened, people just moved on from it. Idk what the point is here? She’s making a legitimately good point about the nature of how “cancelling” works. Punches a woman in her whole face=culture moves on, homophobia=cancelled beyond belief. Even if we come to another conclusion, I think she brings up a good point that would do everyone well to consider since this isn’t the first time violence against women wasnt the straw breaking the camel’s back The gays can’t pay attention to every single person they literally don’t care about looking for problematic behavior. Be mad at the straights for loving men who are violent towards women. Don’t be mad at the gays for not canceling someone who they didn’t even know existed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 74,130 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 21 minutes ago, Ziggy said: I’m not saying it is? I’m saying that her point is that is there a double standard at play? That’s worth considering. She’s not saying one is worse than the other. She’s saying it’s a bizarre double standard to cancel someone for one awful thing and not another awful thing. The “ranking” you’re talking about is the exact thing she’s calling attention to here. To AB, the violence against Black women is seemingly always the “lower” issue (which there is evidence to back up her claim tbh) and so she’s saying let’s talk about that and fix it. Her whole post is literally the opposite of what you’re saying and is actively speaking out *against* that. Youre saying that the culture not addressing one but addressing the other doesn’t mean anything? At the very least, it’s worth entertaining the notion to make sure that we are not devaluing women in the culture at large. I'm not dismissing the notion, it definitely has its merits, but I just don't like how she's sizing it up against homophobia especially that she's been notoriously queerphobic. Tell me honestly: if you take a random sample of any population and ask them: is violence against black women okay? Is mocking homosexuality okay? don't you think a lot more people are going to be okay with mocking homosexuality? Homophobia is still the norm is most of the world. Virtually the whole world understands that violence is wrong. Just because this particular video of dababy being violent did not make as many headlines as him openly trashing people with AIDS, it doesn't mean that "The Culture", whatever that is, is more okay with women being beat up than gay people being mocked. chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon 10,896 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Lona Delery said: i expected a homophobic rant in his defense i came here so ready to drag can't believe i'm on her side this time ... and now i just sit in silence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegAde 18,044 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 On a second thought, it kind of comes of like she's trying to diminish the gravity of what he said because she has said a lot homophobic things as well. I have an issue with her tone especially when she called the backlash "performative" . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Windowlicker 3,084 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 35 minutes ago, RenegAde said: On a second thought, it kind of comes of like she's trying to diminish the gravity of what he said because she has said a lot homophobic things as well. I have an issue with her tone especially when she called the backlash "performative" .his comments were really bad and it hurt people. She's literally not, though. She came out the same day DaBaby had his little rant and said his comments were very dangerous. The backlash is performative because the industry wants to make an example out of him to prove they're all about inclusivity, which is a total crock. He will more than likely end up booking the exact same stages that he was dropped from this week next year, and this will be forgotten. These festivals weren't even planning on dropping him until he decided not to give them a pre-recorded (fake) apology on video. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegAde 18,044 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, PropaGaga said: She's literally not, though. She came out the same day DaBaby had his little rant and said his comments were very dangerous. The backlash is performative because the industry wants to make an example out of him to prove they're all about inclusivity, which is a total crock. He will more than likely end up booking the exact same stages that he was dropped from this week next year, and this will be forgotten. These festivals weren't even planning on dropping him until he decided not to give them a pre-recorded (fake) apology on video. Why didn't she condemn him when he actually punched the woman ? Did she say anything about it in 2020 when it happened? why is she bringing it up now . Seems a little sketchy to me considering she has used homophobic slurs in the past . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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