Ivy 12,256 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 I'm not so sure that it's R*b, and my personal suspect list has like 8 people on it at this point, but I'm just thinking.. fans have been thinking it's him for so long, and her team has never came out and said it's not.. when people were accusing Dr Luke didn't her team say a statement that it wasn't him? Also, I'm worried that this is going to get messy the meow in zombieboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mother of Puppies 36,260 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Ivy said: I'm not so sure that it's R*b, and my personal suspect list has like 8 people on it at this point, but I'm just thinking.. fans have been thinking it's him for so long, and her team has never came out and said it's not.. when people were accusing Dr Luke didn't her team say a statement that it wasn't him? Also, I'm worried that this is going to get messy wait... her team said it wasn't Dr Luke who did this to Kesha? Or do you mean to Gaga? THEY CALL ME LADY MOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy 12,256 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, MotherOfPuppies said: wait... her team said it wasn't Dr Luke who did this to Kesha? Or do you mean to Gaga? No no, at the time that was all happening fans were speculating he was the one who assaulted Gaga the meow in zombieboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,074 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, Ivy said: I'm not so sure that it's R*b, and my personal suspect list has like 8 people on it at this point, but I'm just thinking.. fans have been thinking it's him for so long, and her team has never came out and said it's not.. when people were accusing Dr Luke didn't her team say a statement that it wasn't him? Also, I'm worried that this is going to get messy Honestly, there are like 2 people who make sense: Rob & Martin K (the latter because of his involvement in Cherry Tree & the fact that he's still massively powerful)...there's been conflicting ages on Rob and he does look way older than 45 and there's a lot of other evidence that it's probably him imo. The other people are too old or young or don't match the time frame. But yeah, the fans on social media need to stop f*cking speculating (I feel wrong even doing it on here)...they are just naming every random producer she worked with early on at this point, even though Gaga clearly said she doesn't want to name him, even people who don't fit the bill and accusing random men, esp. random Black men who don't even fit the description, of assault is...not a good look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 52,278 Posted May 22, 2021 Author Share Posted May 22, 2021 33 minutes ago, LilyLark said: I'm 99% sure it's R*b. I've been a fan from the beginning, and someone who used to work with Gaga sued Rob back in like...'09 or '10 and heavily implied he was abusive towards Gaga. It was (very) briefly in the media and got hushed up super quickly...the only reason I remember is because when Gaga first came out someone brought it up. He also accused her of having an affair with Tony Bennett and other batsh*t stuff on twitter and in the media...the kind of claims abusive partners make about people who leave them. In fact, I can recall a lot of people speculating that he was implying she had an abortion (that would have impacted her career, sadly, 10 years ago..not so much today) and about drug use when he said he had "info" that could "hurt" her career. He also kept trying to claim credit for her career, etc. and it all just screamed abusive partner...including the fact that he sued her. Edited: I'm assuming she has numerous reasons for not naming him (psychological, etc.) but he's lawsuit happy and I'm guessing it's probably just not worth going through the trauma again for her. But did they meet in 2005? I don’t think so it. Rob coulda been just another crazy ex but maybe he’s not the one who abused her in the context of this thread. Their earliest work seems to be in 06 and they met thru W*ndy St*rland 5 days before she turned 20 according to this link: https://ladygaga.fandom.com/wiki/Rob_Fusari Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PawDealer 254 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 The admin deleted my topic about who are the rapists for respecting Gaga. But this topic is free, discussing about the whole rape case information, has 20+ pages and the admin doesn't do anything Gagaaaaaa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy 12,256 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, PawDealer said: The admin deleted my topic about who are the rapists for respecting Gaga. But this topic is free, discussing about the whole rape case information, has 20+ pages and the admin doesn't do anything This one will probably be closed too after a little while the meow in zombieboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOT 2,942 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Can we please stop naming people and discussing whether or not they might be guilty of rape. In what universe is it ok to do that ? I don't understand how this thread is still open. I thought it was closed down last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 52,278 Posted May 22, 2021 Author Share Posted May 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, PawDealer said: The admin deleted my topic about who are the rapists for respecting Gaga. But this topic is free, discussing about the whole rape case information, has 20+ pages and the admin doesn't do anything Oh my god calm down - most of this thread is a reaction to the news. Having a literal thread title about who it is looks so bad. Stop adding useless comments pls 4 minutes ago, MOT said: Can we please stop naming people and discussing whether or not they might be guilty of rape. In what universe is it ok to do that ? I don't understand how this thread is still open. I thought it was closed down last night. Gaga isn’t gonna see this so like what’s the issue? She never said we cant talk about it. She said don’t force her to name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,074 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 22 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said: But did they meet in 2005? I don’t think so it. Rob coulda been just another crazy ex but maybe he’s not the one who abused her in the context of this thread. Their earliest work seems to be in 06 and they met thru W*ndy St*rland 5 days before she turned 20 according to this link: https://ladygaga.fandom.com/wiki/Rob_Fusari The dates could be slightly off if she was trying to be vague. The most d*mning thing to me was the insane twitter replies which sounded less like a bitter ex and more like how an abusive former partner would act. TBH there's only two people who match when you factor in the information she's provided: Fusari & Martin Kierszenbaum. L.A. Reid's way too old, even though he's definitely a sexual predator, and was never truly her producer even if she knew him/worked with him briefly, she still works with Vince/Redone/etc. on occasion even if Vince isn't her producer anymore, etc. There are tons of reasons people don't speak out, but besides the psychological ones it does make sense if it's Fusari because of his tendency to be lawsuit happy & Martin is still pretty d*mn powerful & has friends in high places. People on twitter are unfortunately accusing every rando producer, though, which is...not good...and not what Gaga wants. Stan twitter is being pretty messy about this, although at least some are being respectful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,074 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said: Oh my god calm down - most of this thread is a reaction to the news. Having a literal thread title about who it is looks so bad. Stop adding useless comments pls Gaga isn’t gonna see this so like what’s the issue? She never said we cant talk about it. She said don’t force her to name. I'd also add that while it is kind of uncomfortable to talk about it, there's a difference between discussing it on here and openly talking about it on social media (twitter and IG). I don't think people should be naming names or going after Rob on twitter, but I do think a (somewhat) private fan board is another story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanyG 3 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Actually there is an article: https://www.google.de/amp/s/www.tampabay.com/judge-agrees-to-seal-court-documents-that-could-seriously-injure-lady-gaga/2134920/%3foutputType=amp it reads: „[...] but the performer asked in July to seal the documents to prevent "sensitive, private and personal" information that would "inflict significant personal and professional harm" on her. The judge has agreed, saying the secret would "seriously injure" Gaga.[...]“ and: „ [...] We're more inclined to believe another persistent rumor that there's a baby involved, or drug dealing, [...]“ It was pretty obvious that she got pregnant after the rape, especially after that many hints she gave us. I assume the „yellow chair“ in the song trigger ist the abortion chair she had to sit on. https://gagadaily.com/forums/topic/329561-replay-is-about-trauma-references-trigger/ this is a thread from last year where someone is connecting gagas song replay and trigger and is guessing who her rapist could be. But to be honest, these assumptions are quite disrespectfull towards Gaga. aaand RF was 47 in 2015 according to this article: https://www.google.de/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3000821/amp/Lady-Gaga-s-bad-romance-Svengali-ex-boyfriend-Rob-Fusari-exposed-blames-prot-g-e-s-highly-inflammatory-testimony-7million-court-ruling-against-him.html so he has to be 53 now in 2021. almost 20 years older than gaga... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanyG 3 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Also in the documentaty TMYCS Gaga said that THEY were gonna burn all her music. So I think there are many people involved in this... at least some other people knew what was going to happen to her and encouraged the rapist and helped him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 52,278 Posted May 22, 2021 Author Share Posted May 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, LilyLark said: The dates could be slightly off if she was trying to be vague. The most d*mning thing to me was the insane twitter replies which sounded less like a bitter ex and more like how an abusive former partner would act. TBH there's only two people who match when you factor in the information she's provided: Fusari & Martin Kierszenbaum. L.A. Reid's way too old, even though he's definitely a sexual predator, and was never truly her producer even if she knew him/worked with him briefly, she still works with Vince/Redone/etc. on occasion even if Vince isn't her producer anymore, etc. There are tons of reasons people don't speak out, but besides the psychological ones it does make sense if it's Fusari because of his tendency to be lawsuit happy & Martin is still pretty d*mn powerful & has friends in high places. People on twitter are unfortunately accusing every rando producer, though, which is...not good...and not what Gaga wants. Stan twitter is being pretty messy about this, although at least some are being respectful. Yeah I was just reading an old thread on here ab the time R*b tweeted Gaga should publicly name her abuser - and everyone was dragging/speculating it was him. But I guess you’re right with the throw off. If she didnt want to face him, saying she was 20 would def implicate him - they made so much stuff together that never got released - maybe the burning that was referenced idk… If it was M****n well idk - not ruling him out Twitter is definitely not the place to discuss this. Saw Nicki stans trolling ab this and knew I had to log off for a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 52,278 Posted May 22, 2021 Author Share Posted May 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, GermanyG said: Actually there is an article: https://www.google.de/amp/s/www.tampabay.com/judge-agrees-to-seal-court-documents-that-could-seriously-injure-lady-gaga/2134920/%3foutputType=amp it reads: „[...] but the performer asked in July to seal the documents to prevent "sensitive, private and personal" information that would "inflict significant personal and professional harm" on her. The judge has agreed, saying the secret would "seriously injure" Gaga.[...]“ and: „ [...] We're more inclined to believe another persistent rumor that there's a baby involved, or drug dealing, [...]“ It was pretty obvious that she got pregnant after the rape, especially after that many hints she gave us. I assume the „yellow chair“ in the song trigger ist the abortion chair she had to sit on. https://gagadaily.com/forums/topic/329561-replay-is-about-trauma-references-trigger/ this is a thread from last year where someone is connecting gagas song replay and trigger and is guessing who her rapist could be. But to be honest, these assumptions are quite disrespectfull towards Gaga. aaand RF was 47 in 2015 according to this article: https://www.google.de/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3000821/amp/Lady-Gaga-s-bad-romance-Svengali-ex-boyfriend-Rob-Fusari-exposed-blames-prot-g-e-s-highly-inflammatory-testimony-7million-court-ruling-against-him.html so he has to be 53 now in 2021. almost 20 years older than gaga... It’s him. It’s him. Omf this masterwork - good job. Btw I don’t condone cyberbullying him now. Altho he’s already been harassed off of social media for everything else he did Now we wait for our cold waffles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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