Camilla Cabello Liking An IG Post Defending Israel

[dit 46,438]

13 minutes ago, alsemanche said:

well what I mean by this is its ok to be supportive of a hopefully non genocidal Israel in the future basically. Like for me if Netanyahu is removed and someone more progressive replaces him who is actually whole heartedly committed to a fair two state solution then honestly I will support Israel with open arms myself! I am not saying it is ok to support extremist Zionists like Netanyahu, the Israeli government and the Israeli military. An Israel in its current form is not ok and needs to be called out.

[StarstruckIllusion 52,572]

“Stop taking everything you read online at face value” tea, including that post - she read online. Dumbass. 

[StarstruckIllusion 52,572]

15 minutes ago, Melancholia said:

correct me if i'm wrong but the post is really not that bad? it's looking at both sides of the argument and isn't blindly supporting anyone...

 

11 minutes ago, GagasBiggestFan said:

Thats what people choose not to look at. They look at their own opinions and values and think they're defending the other argument. smdh 

Correction: This is not a both sides issue. These aren’t two different countries beefing. It’s the Israeli government trynna kill it’s own second-class citizens, who already live in what’s essentially an open prison, and committing war crimes while doing so. It’s like trynna both sides the colonizers vs native americans… only right wing racists do that. As they’re doing now - Netanyahoo is literally a huge Trump fan like lmao 

Validating both sides of something isn’t inherently good. There is no both sides of “1+1 = 2” and “1+1 = 11.”

[HuffsAhoy 7,433]

23 minutes ago, Melancholia said:

correct me if i'm wrong but the post is really not that bad? it's looking at both sides of the argument and isn't blindly supporting anyone...

 

18 minutes ago, GagasBiggestFan said:

Thats what people choose not to look at. They look at their own opinions and values and think they're defending the other argument. smdh 

Looking at both sides of an argument is for miniscule things like why people prefer Android over Apple, not debating whether or not Israel inflicting genocide on Palestine is justified 

[alsemanche 93,637]

16 minutes ago, dit said:

well what I mean by this is its ok to be supportive of a hopefully non genocidal Israel in the future basically. Like for me if Netanyahu is removed and someone more progressive replaces him who is actually whole heartedly committed to a fair two state solution then honestly I will support Israel with open arms myself! I am not saying it is ok to support extremist Zionists like Netanyahu, the Israeli government and the Israeli military. An Israel in its current form is not ok and needs to be called out.

The state of Israel is literally built on colonialism and genocide, the two do not and will never exist without one another. There is no fair two state solution when one of the states (Israel) is literally built on top of the other state that it stole and murdered. 

 

[LOVEDRUG 10,649]

3 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said:

 

Correction: This is not a both sides issue. These aren’t two different countries beefing. It’s the Israeli government trynna kill it’s own second-class citizens, who already live in what’s essentially an open prison, and committing war crimes while doing so. It’s like trynna both sides the colonizers vs native americans… only right wing racists do that. As they’re doing now - Netanyahoo is literally a huge Trump fan like lmao 

Validating both sides of something isn’t inherently good. There is no both sides of “1+1 = 2” and “1+1 = 11.”

i literally just meant talking about how there's also been hate crimes against jews but... okay?

[Bazaar 5,752]

17 minutes ago, dit said:

well what I mean by this is its ok to be supportive of a hopefully non genocidal Israel in the future basically. Like for me if Netanyahu is removed and someone more progressive replaces him who is actually whole heartedly committed to a fair two state solution then honestly I will support Israel with open arms myself! I am not saying it is ok to support extremist Zionists like Netanyahu, the Israeli government and the Israeli military. An Israel in its current form is not ok and needs to be called out.

Don’t try to explain yourself to an anti-semitic person, it’s useless 

[StarstruckIllusion 52,572]

1 minute ago, Melancholia said:

i literally just meant talking about how there's also been hate crimes against jews but... okay?

yes, we know you only have one piece of the puzzle. that’s why I said what I said 

[alsemanche 93,637]

22 minutes ago, GagasBiggestFan said:

Thats what people choose not to look at. They look at their own opinions and values and think they're defending the other argument. smdh 

Let's take another scenario: someone breaks into your house, hold you at gunpoint while choking you (if anyone makes this sexual I WILL drag you to hell and back) and tells you let's live together in this new place that I call my home too now. Is there a valid "two sides" argument here or is the other person the one who needs to be removed and thrown away? Now apply this to Palestine and you got your "two sides". And no it's not more complicated than that. 

[LOVEDRUG 10,649]

Just now, StarstruckIllusion said:

yes, we know you only have one piece of the puzzle. that’s why I said what I said 

i'm not the one with only one piece of the puzzle. i think what's happening in palestine is shocking, and i'll always stand by palestinians. i just don't think it's a coincidence that the notoriously anti-semitic modern left is ignoring a lot of anti-jewish hate crimes at the moment.

[alsemanche 93,637]

2 minutes ago, Bazaar said:

Don’t try to explain yourself to an anti-semitic person, it’s useless 

oh look who's here with the antisemitism argument lol

[StarstruckIllusion 52,572]

Just now, Bazaar said:

Don’t try to explain yourself to an anti-semitic person, it’s useless 

Everything is useless when you stan an illegitimate talking point. When you have 0 arguments: silence > calling people names 

[Bazaar 5,752]

1 minute ago, alsemanche said:

oh look who's here with the antisemitism argument lol

At least you’re not denying 

[alsemanche 93,637]

1 minute ago, Bazaar said:

At least you’re not denying 

Oh no I'm very much denying your conflation of antizionism with antisemitism lmao. You really thought you did something there.

[LOVEDRUG 10,649]

8 minutes ago, HuffsAhoy said:

 

Looking at both sides of an argument is for miniscule things like why people prefer Android over Apple, not debating whether or not Israel inflicting genocide on Palestine is justified 

so you're saying looking at a situation objectively and critically is only for trivial things? you're actively propelling the ideas that encourage people to jump to conclusions. there is two sides to every argument.

even isis. even world war two. even trump voters.

there isn't a SINGLE geopolitical situation that doesn't have multiple viewpoints. they're geoPOLITICAL for a reason. they're all motivated by people's opinions.