Better Day 5,766 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 “BORIS Johnson will be able to wrongfoot Sir Keir Starmer with a snap General Election after axing rigid parliamentary term times. The PM today committed to ripping up the Fixed Term Parliaments Act (FTPA) that sets in stone Polling Day every five years.” Source: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14917296/boris-johnson-rip-up-fixed-term-parliaments-act/ Another power grab from the wonderful Tory party. Rumours he will call an election Early 2023 Together You And I! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 The idea of election dates being so fluid is unfathomable to me I am too used to elections being in set segments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better Day 5,766 Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 Just now, bionic said: The idea of election dates being so fluid is unfathomable to me I am too used to elections being in set segments It should be set. Far too many elections in the past have been called by PM’s just to get more power like Theresa May’s failed election in 2017 Together You And I! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomOfTheDance 13,795 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 this sounds way too corrupt.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Okay, so this is actually a bit more complicated than made out here and I can’t believe I have to defend the f*cking tories again This is to stop situations that we landed in when Theresa lost her majority and the government basically came to a standstill for years. The queen is meant to be an apolitical figure but she was asked to dissolve parliament and allow an early election so the United Kingdom could finally get moving again. This bill means the Queen doesn’t need to get involved again, especially as she got flack from both sides of the Brexit coin for doing so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better Day 5,766 Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 Just now, Benji said: Okay, so this is actually a bit more complicated than made out here and I can’t believe I have to defend the f*cking tories again This is to stop situations that we landed in when Theresa lost her majority and the government basically came to a standstill for years. The queen is meant to be an apolitical figure but she was asked to dissolve parliament and allow an early election so the country could finally get moving again. This bill means the Queen doesn’t need to get involved again, especially as she got flack from both sides of the Brexit coin for doing so. Not at all. The power to call elections should not be standing with the PM. They should be a limit of how many elections can be called - in this case every 5 years. If a Government loses their majority it’s their fault and should accept and get on with running a minority Government. Together You And I! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Just now, Miss Dolly said: Not at all. The power to call elections should not be standing with the PM. They should be a limit of how many elections can be called - in this case every 5 years. If a Government loses their majority it’s their fault and should accept and get on with running a minority Government. I disagree. Theresa May’s government came to a standstill for far too long over Brexit and we have to avoid that happening again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better Day 5,766 Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 Just now, Benji said: I disagree. Theresa May’s government came to a standstill for far too long over Brexit and we have to avoid that happening again. It was her own fault, she got approval from Parliament to hold an election and she messed it up. She had a majority before 2017 and threw it away. I literally celebrated when she lost her majority. Together You And I! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSlash 14,539 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 This sounds like eventually, somebody could delay the election indefinitely . Ew, David! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better Day 5,766 Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 Just now, TheSlash said: This sounds like eventually, somebody could delay the election indefinitely . Elections are still required by law. Together You And I! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSlash 14,539 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 22 minutes ago, Miss Dolly said: Elections are still required by law. But who would stop someone to delay it by, let's say, 50 years. It'd be long time, things could change. Ew, David! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better Day 5,766 Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, TheSlash said: But who would stop someone to delay it by, let's say, 50 years. It'd be long time, things could change. Legally they cannot delay an election for more than 5 years. Together You And I! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSlash 14,539 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 24 minutes ago, Miss Dolly said: Legally they cannot delay an election for more than 5 years. So the the scrapping of the law could only allow early elections? Spoiler Sorry for me being dumb Ew, David! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better Day 5,766 Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, TheSlash said: So the the scrapping of the law could only allow early elections? Hide contents Sorry for me being dumb Yeah, the PM can call an election before the 5 year bracket. The PM had the power before 2011. Together You And I! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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