Israel and Palestine conflict explained

[TheResidentZionist 128]

2 minutes ago, alsemanche said:

I love when someone who has no clue about the history or the birth of the Zionist colonial project tells others that they have no knowledge of history. It really is a joke at this point. 

I am a proud Zionist. I'm also Jewish. I'm happy that you have such a strong opinion on somthing that actively doesn't affect you. That's the beauty of freedom. Having an opinion that is seperate from another and being able to express it. 

I am quite educated on the matter. But explaining somthing so complex, that affects millions of people on a website devoted to Lady Gaga seems like the wrong arena. 

Go take a class and learn about the Jewish people. Might change you mind a bit. 

Does anyone have an answer to my question? 

Where will the Jews go? 

Because all this huffing and puffing about Palestine is great but what about the other side. 

That's why I'm saying all this supposed humanitarian care and support for Palestine is just Anti -Semetic if you don't share the same part of your heart with the Jews of Israel. 

Donald trump was detaining families and imprisoning children at the Mexico border. Should the world blame the American people. Is it yours and my fault that that happened? Or do we blame Trump. 

Apply that logic to Israel. 

 

 

[ARTPOP 3,096]

1 minute ago, iamlost481516 said:

I'm happy that you have such a strong opinion on somthing that actively doesn't affect you.

Just to break your nut shell. It does affect everyone in the Middle East and not only Palestinians 

[BABYL0N 3,192]

The fact that settler colonies like US, Australia, Canada and former colonial states like France and the UK actually can’t say nothing and don’t have any option but to twist the facts for their people. Because if they speak up against Israels actions they immediately have to answer questions about their own actions of injustice in the past on indigenous people They are all not ready for that convo

[TheResidentZionist 128]

1 minute ago, Aphroditus said:

Just to break your nut shell. It does affect everyone in the Middle East and not only Palestinians 

Yes it does! I know the UAE and Morroco have normalized ties with Israel. Are we gonna ostracize them? 

Wanna take a crack at the million dollar question! 

Where will the Jews go. 

Please I'm dying for someone to try and answer. 

[alsemanche 97,820]

1 minute ago, iamlost481516 said:

I am a proud Zionist. I'm also Jewish. I'm happy that you have such a strong opinion on somthing that actively doesn't affect you.

First of all, being a proud Zionist is disgusting on its own. Second of all, I am very much affected by Israel and it's daily excursions over my country and it's constant threats of wear. So kindly f*ck off.   

You wanna absolve the people of Israel from responsibility while they're literally celebrating the death of Palestinians and calling for their murder. Yet we're the ones who are evil somehow  And stop screaming anti-Semitism at every anti-Zionist stance, it's literally embarrassing.

 

[alsemanche 97,820]

Just now, iamlost481516 said:

Are we gonna ostracize them?

Yes? You say it like it's a surreal thing lmao. F*ck everyone who normalizes ties with Israel, plain and simple. 

[alsemanche 97,820]

1 minute ago, iamlost481516 said:

Where will the Jews go. 

Maybe they should have thought of that before colonizing another nation and killing its people huh? Idk why you expect us to find an answer to a 'problem' that's a direct result from their colonialism lmao

[BABYL0N 3,192]

9 minutes ago, iamlost481516 said:

That's why I'm saying all this supposed humanitarian care and support for Palestine is just Anti -Semetic if you don't share the same part of your heart with the Jews of Israel. 

„Antisemitic“ the typical wording to shut any opinion on the opression of Israel down. Btw arabs especially kanaanites and assyrians who always coexisted with mizrahi jews in that region are also semites so stop this propaganda. No one wants jews to leave it’s not even a religious conflict stop making it one. EQUALITY and fighting systematic injustice would be enough. Maybe giving the right for palestinian refugees to go back to their land just like they had to „leave“ decades ago. 

[TheResidentZionist 128]

1 minute ago, alsemanche said:

Maybe they should have thought of that before colonizing another nation and killing its people huh? Idk why you expect us to find an answer to a 'problem' that's a direct result from their colonialism lmao

I think you're the one truly showing what's in your heart here. 

Hatred and Disdain. 

If your logic is to be followed then China, USA, France, Spain, Portugal, England, Germany and Iran all should be dissolved.

[BABYL0N 3,192]

4 minutes ago, iamlost481516 said:

If your logic is to be followed then China, USA, France, Spain, Portugal, England, Germany and Iran all should be dissolved.

If your logic is to be followed then it’s okay to continue colonizing states and opressing indigenous people. 

[alsemanche 97,820]

1 minute ago, iamlost481516 said:

Hatred and Disdain. 

For Israel and Zionism? Fully. And I have no reason to hide it lmao, idk why you're saying it like it's a bad thing. 

2 minutes ago, iamlost481516 said:

If your logic is to be followed then China, USA, France, Spain, Portugal, England, Germany and Iran all should be dissolved.

Unfortunately the colonial project in these countries is already too far in to be undone, but you are right I would be calling for their dissolution if I had lived in the time of their conception. I'm not sure why you think i support any form of colonialism and ethnic cleansing over another lol. They are all murderous. You're really doing the most to justify colonialism when it's literally unjustifiable. 

[TheResidentZionist 128]

3 minutes ago, alsemanche said:

For Israel and Zionism? Fully. And I have no reason to hide it lmao, idk why you're saying it like it's a bad thing. 

Unfortunately the colonial project in these countries is already too far in to be undone, but you are right I would be calling for their dissolution if I had lived in the time of their conception. I'm not sure why you think i support any form of colonialism and ethnic cleansing over another lol. They are all murderous. You're really doing the most to justify colonialism when it's literally unjustifiable. 

Wow Are you saying it's okay to hate a group of people. Because despite what their actions may be that's literally the definition of racism

[alsemanche 97,820]

Just now, iamlost481516 said:

Wow Are you saying it's okay to hate a group of people. Because despite what their actions may be that's literally the definition of racism

Racism = prejudice and discrimination against a certain race

Zionism = not a race but an ideology and a nationalist movement (and Zionism is racist in itself but you're clearly not ready for this conversation)

Israel = not a race but a settler colonial project (that is also racist)

Anti-Zionism and anti-Israel = not racism

Now stop saying random sh!t that makes no sense  

[TheResidentZionist 128]

16 minutes ago, BABYL0N said:

„Antisemitic“ the typical wording to shut any opinion on the opression of Israel down. Btw arabs especially kanaanites and assyrians who always coexisted with mizrahi jews in that region are also semites so stop this propaganda. No one wants jews to leave it’s not even a religious conflict stop making it one. EQUALITY and fighting systematic injustice would be enough. Maybe giving the right for palestinian refugees to go back to their land just like they had to „leave“ decades ago. 

Yes let's talk about Anti Semitism. Did you know the UNHRC had made 56 resolutions against Israel. They have only made 1 on the crisis is Sudan, 1 for Sri Lanka and NONE against China. 

Let's sit with that for a moment.  

[TheResidentZionist 128]

1 minute ago, alsemanche said:

Racism = prejudice and discrimination against a certain race

Zionism = not a race but an ideology and a nationalist movement (and Zionism is racist in itself but you're clearly not ready for this conversation)

Israel = not a race but a settler colonial project (that is also racist)

Anti-Zionism and anti-Israel = not racism

Now stop saying random sh!t that makes no sense  

The Jewish people are both a Race and Religion. Don't even try to disagree cause genetics will disagree with you.