Producer who understood GAGA SOUND the most

[Killa 17,460]

1 minute ago, FfFfFfFF said:

Being vocal about waiting to eventually release a more ballad-heavy album doesn't mean it's her true, authentic vision. It may be an experiment or an off-thing, or one equally important facet of her music - not the absolue  most important and revealing one. So yes, it may a personal problem of mine in that I don't see this as proof that a country-tinged, retro album is the album Gaga always wanted. I also think that Gaga's sound can mean multiple genres and styles, I don't see why the folk and jazz should be the core and not  pop or electronic, which have always been more prevalent in her work and genres she chooses in order to express herself most of the time. There are influences from jazz in the Gaga sound for sure, but not more than Madonna or Whitney or 80s pop.

You are very well-spoken and I apreciate that you have an ellaborate vision on the matter, but I really don't agree with your line of thought. Agree to disagree! 

To add. I see her much more at home in c2c

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Just now, Killa said:

Well thats not how music works. 

For example shallow is a winning formula. They did something that was able to emulate a thing that the public understood and recieved well. Its a very pure hit. 

Joanne on other hand gives as questions. That way of thinking is too literal and art doesnt work like that. 

Who are you to say how art and music work? The entire point is that it's subjective.

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2 minutes ago, FfFfFfFF said:

Being vocal about waiting to eventually release a more ballad-heavy album doesn't mean it's her true, authentic vision. It may be an experiment or an off-thing, or one equally important facet of her music - not the absolue  most important and revealing one. So yes, it may a personal problem of mine in that I don't see this as proof that a country-tinged, retro album is the album Gaga always wanted. I also think that Gaga's sound can mean multiple genres and styles, I don't see why the folk and jazz should be the core and not  pop or electronic, which have always been more prevalent in her work and genres she chooses in order to express herself most of the time. There are influences from jazz in the Gaga sound for sure, but not more than Madonna or Whitney or 80s pop.

You are very well-spoken and I apreciate that you have an ellaborate vision on the matter, but I really don't agree with your line of thought. Agree to disagree! 

Maybe there's a language barrier and you're just not understanding what I mean, and I do mean that respectfully. When I say that jazz and folk are the core of her music, the core of everything she does, I literally mean that's how she starts all her songs; at a piano or on a guitar, and she builds them up from there. Joanne does not build them up much more than that unlike albums like Born This Way, but it's still the same in spirit. That's why I say it's Gaga at her purest. Because she could take all the songs on Joanne and build them up like she did on Born This Way but she doesn't because she just wanted to prove she can still be Gaga without all the extra. None of that means she prefers doing stripped back music over electronic music. Think of Joanne as a root and her other albums as the stump and branches, and maybe you'll get what I mean.

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21 minutes ago, PropaGaga said:

Maybe there's a language barrier and you're just not understanding what I mean, and I do mean that respectfully. When I say that jazz and folk are the core of her music, the core of everything she does, I literally mean that's how she starts all her songs; at a piano or on a guitar, and she builds them up from there. Joanne does not build them up much more than that unlike albums like Born This Way, but it's still the same in spirit. That's why I say it's Gaga at her purest. Because she could take all the songs on Joanne and build them up like she did on Born This Way but she doesn't because she just wanted to prove she can still be Gaga without all the extra. None of that means she prefers doing stripped back music over electronic music. Think of Joanne as a root and her other albums as the stump and branches, and maybe you'll get what I mean.

I think I understand what you are saying, and still don't agree. I don't believe that the the original form of the songs is more truthful than the more full-fleshed final version. Your opinion is that Gaga at her purest stripped back sound is "the" Gaga sound, I say that the essence of Gaga is in the extravagant and fantesy-driven electronic style from most of her albums. That's the finallity that she aims for in her songs, so I say that should be more revealing of her vision than the starting point or the foundation-sound.

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7 minutes ago, FfFfFfFF said:

I think I understand what you are saying, and still don't agree. I don't believe that the the original form of the songs is more truthful than the more full-fleshed final version. Your opinion is that Gaga at her purest stripped back sound is "the" Gaga sound, I say that the essence of Gaga is in the extravagant and fantesy-driven electronic style from most of her albums. That's the finallity that she aims to in her songs, so I say that should be more revealing of her vision than the foundation sound.

Well, no, that's not what my opinion is because I don't believe there is a singular "Gaga sound". She's too diverse. There is something that ties everything together, though, and that is what I believe the sound on Joanne to be, hence why I say it's Gaga at her purest. Also I never said it's more "truthful" than her other works (again, words are being put into my mouth) because, again, I think all of her albums are just as true to her as Joanne is. And I don' think that just because the final versions of her songs are usually electronic means that's the most revealing of her, because she's said many times that her songs are always transforming in many different ways for her and the idea of something being finished isn't something she believes in. So really you should be looking at the roots if you want a good idea of where she stands.

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1 minute ago, PropaGaga said:

Well, no, that's not what my opinion is because I don't believe there is a singular "Gaga sound". She's too diverse. There is something that ties everything together, though, and that is what I believe the sound on Joanne to be.

I, again, can't see why Joanne should be the musical output that has some central role in her discography (as in 'ties everything together') for all the reasons I already mentioned. But you are obvioulsy justified in your own opinion.

[AVeryGagaHolyDick 25,184]

On 5/10/2021 at 1:27 AM, NFRatwell said:

Herself

 

Gaga didn't touch the instrumental lol

[HuffsAhoy 7,433]

I think all the producers she's worked with have brought out the best in her and the sound direction she wanted for each album. Some do it better than others (Mark, Bloodpop, DJWS) while others don't quite hit the mark for me. But at the end of the day, we need to remember this:

 

[DoctorScent 752]

RedOne for sure

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On 5/10/2021 at 1:20 AM, Kantakyakirno said:

No hatred, be civil! In your opinion, which producer has successfully understood GAGA, and brought out GAGA SOUNDS in the songs? 

 

A RED ONE 

[Better Day 5,766]

49 minutes ago, KEVIN STEVE said:

Gaga didn't touch the instrumental lol

She literally did. She is the main producer 

[Angelina Stefania 427]

On 5/9/2021 at 5:26 PM, Bio said:

Didn't Garibay allegedly steal credits from DJWS on BTW? My answer is DJWS.

No, Zedd stole credits from White Shadow on ARTPOP tracks. 

[Angelina Stefania 427]

Mark Ronson. He saw the rockstar in her, the Stefani in Lady Gaga. He didn't try to turn Joanne into a dancepop record like other producers with her other albums. 

[Reginald 13,841]

So many "Mark Ronson"s! I'm genuinely surprised that people consider Joanne as the signature Gaga sound. Are we listening to the same discography?  

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1 hour ago, Angelina Stefania said:

No, Zedd stole credits from White Shadow on ARTPOP tracks. 

DJWS said himself that Fernando stole credits from him on the BTW album.