COOOK 76,406 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chlorine 47,976 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Didn't Twigs copy an Azealia video? The truth is that not everyone has seen every video that was ever made. The concept of falling from heaven to hell is not proprietary... and doing it on a stripper poll actually makes sense with the concept Lil Nas X (or his team) had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 26,363 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 I understand Andrew's initial point, but I feel like Lil Nas' use of the whole pole dance imagery wasn't gratuitous and served a deeper purpose than shock value. He definitely should acknowledge the inspiration and give credit where credit is due, but in the end the underground always finds its way into the mainstream in the end, so it's nothing new. And I feel like the imagery is relevant to Lil Nas' journey as well. Reclaiming the way women are often portrayed in the rap and R'n'B sphere as a man was kinda the point of this video. Also, not sure I quite understand Andrew's position because he's complaining labels are pitting women and QBIPOC creators against each other, but... right now, he's the one doing it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsemanche 93,939 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, PussPuss said: Didn't Twigs copy an Azealia video? The truth is that not everyone has seen every video that was ever made. The concept of falling from heaven to hell is not proprietary... and doing it on a stripper poll actually makes sense with the concept Lil Nas X (or his team) had. Even if Twigs did copy Azaelia, it doesn't justify Lil Nas copying her. I don't know the full story behind the holy terrain comparison so I won't discuss it right now. But I am 100% sure Lil Nas and his team have seen cellophane. He was literally nominated for a Grammy in the same category. And his team contacted Andrew for the video. The comparison has been so heavily discussed and I legit don't understand how some of you still can't see how much of a copy it is. It's literally similar frames, similar concepts, similar execution. It's fine to admit that they messed up with those 10 or 20 seconds of the video. No one is crucifying Lil Nas. But it's very disrespectful to the artists and directors who worked on cellophane for their work to be reused like it's nothing. Soft, soothing, and succulent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsterdino 31,997 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, PussPuss said: Didn't Twigs copy an Azealia video? The truth is that not everyone has seen every video that was ever made. The concept of falling from heaven to hell is not proprietary... and doing it on a stripper poll actually makes sense with the concept Lil Nas X (or his team) had. mmm what does that have to do with anything bitch?? Andrew directed Cellophane not Holy Terrain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 26,363 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, PussPuss said: The concept of falling from heaven to hell is not proprietary... and doing it on a stripper poll actually makes sense with the concept Lil Nas X (or his team) had. Right, the truth is: nothing is ever truly original. What matters is: is this serving a purpose, and is the inspiration respectfully acknowledged. Lil Nas never pretended this idea to be totally new, but the way he executed it is what's making it relevant and more than a simple rip-off. I'm also pretty sure they had mood boards as well while making Cellophane. I absolutely love Andrew Thomas Huang's work, but he should come off his high horses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUtterfield 8 41,478 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Nothing is original Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose P 23,341 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, PussPuss said: Didn't Twigs copy an Azealia video? The truth is that not everyone has seen every video that was ever made. The concept of falling from heaven to hell is not proprietary... and doing it on a stripper poll actually makes sense with the concept Lil Nas X (or his team) had. The part where he’s falling down the pole is literally shot by shot identical almost. I don’t know how anyone can not notice it. The inspiration was very apparent and it wouldn’t have been hard to acknowledge the inspiration. Especially since FKA Twigs is a much smaller artist. It’s even sadder how some people dismiss this because she’s not as well known. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleepBloop 10,316 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Why do some of you ignore the part where he got contacted by X's label and then got sidelined, while his concept got ripped off??? That's the main point here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsemanche 93,939 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sneaky said: Why do some of you ignore the part where he got contacted by X's label and then got sidelined, while his concept got ripped off??? That's the main point here Because it contradicts their narrative, clearly Soft, soothing, and succulent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGHunter 1,501 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Is this director not tired of himself... Go cry somewhere else. He is looking for relevancy i guess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGHunter 1,501 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 At the end of the day GP doesnt know cellophane or even FKA Twiggs... But they know Lil Nas X and his creativity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGHunter 1,501 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Sneaky said: Why do some of you ignore the part where he got contacted by X's label and then got sidelined, while his concept got ripped off??? That's the main point here Do you have receipts of this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsemanche 93,939 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 minute ago, LGHunter said: Is this director not tired of himself... Go cry somewhere else. He is looking for relevancy i guess This is exactly the type of behaviour that derives from big artists not crediting smaller ones. Whenever a smaller artist starts demanding credit, the stans start acting the same way and trash them. Just now, LGHunter said: At the end of the day GP doesnt know cellophane or even FKA Twiggs... But they know Lil Nas X and his creativity. And this is only more proof. Now don't go crying about getting "bullied" and "attacked" when youre doing exactly that to others. Your attitude is truly disgusting and incredibly disrespectful. Soft, soothing, and succulent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGHunter 1,501 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 minute ago, alsemanche said: This is exactly the type of behaviour that derives from big artists not crediting smaller ones. Whenever a smaller artist starts demanding credit, the stans start acting the same way and trash them. And this is only more proof. Now don't go crying about getting "bullied" and "attacked" when youre doing exactly that to others. Your attitude is truly disgusting and incredibly disrespectful. If you dont like me or my opinion stop responding and just ignore me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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